Toadfish Monastery

In ancient times it was the normal way to make the executees drunk. This practice was abandoned for two reasons:
1. The drunks misbehaved and disturbed the dignity of the occasion
2. The opinion became dominant that the executee should be fully conscious of what was happening at least up to the moment the execution starts (that is also the reasoning about not executing retards and the even more perverse notion that it is OK to forcefeed mentally ill delinquents with psycho drugs to lift their consciousness to a level that fulfills the minimum condition of awareness to allow the execution).

I have already stated on other occasions that the current WH cabal makes dropping the "cruel and unusual" limitations quite appealing but I realize the base motives behind that (make it reaaaaaaallllllllllly slow to serve a s a warning to others!) and know that the negative effects would outweigh by far the advantages.
Another very old idea would serve well: Let them dig a hole and give them food and drink only in exchange for earth. The deeper they dig, the longer they live

Quote from: Swatopluk on June 19, 2008, 10:47:27 AM
I have already stated on other occasions that the current WH cabal makes dropping the "cruel and unusual" limitations quite appealing...Let them dig a hole and give them food and drink only in exchange for earth. The deeper they dig, the longer they live

Cheney would just have some of his friends down there send up an elevator from his home.

Quote from: Swatopluk on June 19, 2008, 10:47:27 AM
Another very old idea would serve well: Let them dig a hole and give them food and drink only in exchange for earth. The deeper they dig, the longer they live

Wouldn't that encourage making tunnels to escape? Up to certain depth the guard would hear but not see the prisoner, he would then make his tunnel and be given for dead upon his/her successful escape.

Nope... the crew at the top would still have to lower a bucket down; if the length of rope needed didn't increase, they'd know something was up.  Also, they could monitor the volume of soil removed.  The only reasonable way around it would be to start with a broad shaft at the top and then narrow it (to allow depth and reduce displacement volume); and once one was deep enough it'd be a long slog out.

All this presumes no water table to speak of.

Quote from: Agujjim on June 19, 2008, 06:39:05 PM
All this presumes no water table to speak of.

That might be a new twist - for a certain length of time, the guards give you water. You have until then to reach the water table, because then your drink stops. Still have to keep delivering soil to get food, though!

So who pumps the water? 

And can me make Busheney do this in Texas?  Chatty sez the water table is only inches deep there.

Quote from: Agujjim on June 19, 2008, 09:04:59 PM
So who pumps the water? 

And can me make Busheney do this in Texas?  Chatty sez the water table is only inches deep there.

Wouldn't matter-- vampires don't breathe anyway....

Quote from: Agujjim on June 19, 2008, 09:04:59 PM
So who pumps the water? 

And can me make Busheney do this in Texas?  Chatty sez the water table is only inches deep there.

On the coast, yes.

Get out as far as San Antonio, about Fort Sam Houston, it's a little over 90 feet.

Go towards San Angelo, and you get to dig some 140-180 feet, until you hit the Edwards plateau and the Lipan Aquifer, where it rises again.

There are places in Williamson County, just north of Austin, where the lower Trinity Aquifer lost 250 feet, plus between 1985 and 1995, and it hasn't rebuilt.

This is all before you get to the deserts in West Texas.
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Remember that Texas is big. Put a hinge on the eastern border, flip the state over, and El Paso would be in the Atlantic Ocean, I forget how far. Hinge and flip the other way, and East Texas would be 60 miles out into the Pacific. Hinge at the top? Brownsville would be 40 miles from Canada.

We have tropical and subtropical areas, we have woods, forests, grasslands, deserts hills and Honest-to-Ganesha desert areas.  Pick a place, drive for a day, and you may just STILL be in Texas. (Beaumont to El Paso, 2 days, driving 9 hours each day, NOT counting the gas, food and potty breaks. That was in 1967, and my Mom STILL hasn't forgiven Daddy, and he's been dead for YEARS. Yes, freeways most of the way.)

About 900 miles across in any direction...and starting a a good first 25-40 miles of it inches above sea level.

I say take 'em to some of that coastal area around the edge of the King Ranch. Ain't nothin' for miles and miles except miles and miles...

Quote from: Sibling Chatty on June 19, 2008, 11:33:02 PM

Quote from: Agujjim on June 19, 2008, 09:04:59 PM
So who pumps the water? 

And can me make Busheney do this in Texas?  Chatty sez the water table is only inches deep there.

On the coast, yes.

Get out as far as San Antonio, about Fort Sam Houston, it's a little over 90 feet.

Go towards San Angelo, and you get to dig some 140-180 feet, until you hit the Edwards plateau and the Lipan Aquifer, where it rises again.

There are places in Williamson County, just north of Austin, where the lower Trinity Aquifer lost 250 feet, plus between 1985 and 1995, and it hasn't rebuilt.

This is all before you get to the deserts in West Texas.
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Remember that Texas is big. Put a hinge on the eastern border, flip the state over, and El Paso would be in the Atlantic Ocean, I forget how far. Hinge and flip the other way, and East Texas would be 60 miles out into the Pacific. Hinge at the top? Brownsville would be 40 miles from Canada.

We have tropical and subtropical areas, we have woods, forests, grasslands, deserts hills and Honest-to-Ganesha desert areas.  Pick a place, drive for a day, and you may just STILL be in Texas. (Beaumont to El Paso, 2 days, driving 9 hours each day, NOT counting the gas, food and potty breaks. That was in 1967, and my Mom STILL hasn't forgiven Daddy, and he's been dead for YEARS. Yes, freeways most of the way.)

About 900 miles across in any direction...and starting a a good first 25-40 miles of it inches above sea level.

I say take 'em to some of that coastal area around the edge of the King Ranch. Ain't nothin' for miles and miles except miles and miles...

One thing I really liked about driving in Texas, is that if you get bored of the interstates, the state roads are excellent.  Not as fast, but the scenery is more interesting.

We did that on a trip back from San Antone (to Tulsa).  Took the scenic route most of the way through Texas.  Excellent state and county roads.... 

....then we hit Oklahoma, and nearly lost an axle on the county "road".  HAD to return to the interstate, for the sake of the car and sanity if nothing else.

That's OK for you-- corrupt county commissioners and crappy roads.

To avoid the water table problem, I propose the digging of the hole on the slopes of a mountain. Mount McKinley and Mount Saint Helens would be prime locations

Quote from: Swatopluk on June 20, 2008, 10:34:59 AM
To avoid the water table problem, I propose the digging of the hole on the slopes of a mountain. Mount McKinley and Mount Saint Helens would be prime locations

Swato, at least have them do something useful - check out old volcanoes to see if they're really inactive.

I thought old Helen was still rumbling
It has to be in the US of course.
Of course they could start digging the transatlantic tunnel.

Or dig in one of those pacific islands that are disappearing under the tide.

Hm, maybe they could be used to prevent the islands from sinking by letting them built levees to avoid their own drowning

Quote from: Swatopluk on June 21, 2008, 11:08:56 AM
Of course they could start digging the transatlantic tunnel.

Somwhere in North West London there is a tunnel to Australia that my cousin and I dug in the mid 1950's. Exact location classified.