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Should we listen to Archbishops?

Started by Griffin NoName, February 07, 2008, 10:08:02 PM

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beagle

Apparently the archbish isn't a few seraphim short of an heavenly host after all, it's just a case of remarks being taken out of context. The correct context being the Middle Ages, presumably.

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Griffin NoName

He seems to have ruined his own debate before it started.

Were women stoned in medieval britain?
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beagle

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Darlica

Here in Scandinavia a common punishment for women caught red-handed with adultery was to be stripped naked, in public, get her head shaved, get a short chain with stones about the size of a badgers head attached to each end of it around her neck.
Then she was chased out of the city, forced to run through the city streets, while any one who wanted to was allowed to hit her with sticks, throw small stones, or just spit on her. 
I couldn't find a proper translation of the word but this punishment is called Gatlopp in Swedish.
I have no idea about how common it was though.

"Kafka was a social realist" -Lindorm out of context

"You think education is expensive, try ignorance" -Anonymous

beagle

Before celebrity TV shows were invented I suspect our nearest standardised equivalent was the ducking stool. Also good (in a Monty-Pythonish sort of way) for detecting witches.

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Swatopluk

aka bath on public expenses  ::)
But do not forget British public schools. (mutual) torture there must have been standardized enough to gain a nomenclature of its own* (the key, the ag-ag etc., not to forget the invitation to toast)
(voluntary) torture on TV is probably just around the corner. There are some shows that come pretty close (even if we leave out Japanese sitting-on-a-heated-stove contests)

*if Kipling is a trustworthy source
Knurrhähne sind eßbar aber empfehlen würde ich das nicht unbedingt.
The aspitriglos is edible though I do not actually recommend it.

Griffin NoName

Ah the ducking upside down in the bog !  Happy schooldays.

But I suspect we are drifting off topic. Let's see what the General Synod think - must catch the news later.
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Pachyderm

But do not forget British public schools. (mutual) torture there must have been standardized enough to gain a nomenclature of its own* (the key, the ag-ag etc., not to forget the invitation to toast)


*if Kipling is a trustworthy source


Don't know about Kipling, but we did have specific names for the various "games". Well, one guy did, but he was a bit weird. It's just a pity he was older than me. I went to boarding school a year late, so there was a whole year of Fresh Meat below me. He did try, but me chasing him round the boarding house with a golf club seemed to put him off. My younger brother shouting "He'll do it, he beats me up regularly!" helped a bit as well....
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Darlica

Quote from: Swatopluk on February 11, 2008, 09:02:15 AM
aka bath on public expenses  ::)
But do not forget British public schools. (mutual) torture there must have been standardized enough to gain a nomenclature of its own* (the key, the ag-ag etc., not to forget the invitation to toast)
(voluntary) torture on TV is probably just around the corner. There are some shows that come pretty close (even if we leave out Japanese sitting-on-a-heated-stove contests)

*if Kipling is a trustworthy source

We already have Fear Factor, Survivor and Big Brother.
Battle Royal anyone?
"Kafka was a social realist" -Lindorm out of context

"You think education is expensive, try ignorance" -Anonymous

pieces o nine

I don't watch "reality" tv, and I don't really understand people who cannot wait to rush home and tune in to new episodes. (But then, I don't really like "stupidity" movies or programming, either. It is wearing enough to deal with such people in real life! :P How can it be fun or relaxing or even cathartic to clot one's leisure hours with focus on more of the same?)

I worked in a company that was downsizing, and frankly, doing it badly. All day long people moaned and whined and raged about the loss of trust, the loss of respect, the loss of civility, and the loss of the implied social contract. Understandable, to a degree. However, after work they rushed home to tune in programs featuring potty-mouthed contestants gleefully planning subterfuge and betrayal, willing to undergo any humiliation or threat for the chance to be on tv and win money. (A perfect dramatization of corporate culture, I think!) Few perceived the hypocrisy of eagerly cheering on weasels on tv, then crying to me about a weasel in their department -- or organizing mutiny when the same said weasels were disciplined for their conduct.

Sometimes it feels as though life were one big Milgram experiment.

-pieces
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--Marquise de Sevigne, February 11, 1677

Scriblerus the Philosophe

Seriously! I never got into the who reality TV thing, either. But then, I suppose, it's the same thing that drives some to watch soaps. More of the same.
I'd rather watch Pushing Daisies, myself.
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Swatopluk

Quote from: Darlica on February 11, 2008, 07:09:56 PM
Quote from: Swatopluk on February 11, 2008, 09:02:15 AM
aka bath on public expenses  ::)
But do not forget British public schools. (mutual) torture there must have been standardized enough to gain a nomenclature of its own* (the key, the ag-ag etc., not to forget the invitation to toast)
(voluntary) torture on TV is probably just around the corner. There are some shows that come pretty close (even if we leave out Japanese sitting-on-a-heated-stove contests)

*if Kipling is a trustworthy source

We already have Fear Factor, Survivor and Big Brother.
Battle Royal anyone?

Hey, a real torture show would be without an easy get-out option :mua:
Jokes aside, there have been demands to show executions on TV regularly (in the US; Saudi Arabia & Co may already do it).
Knurrhähne sind eßbar aber empfehlen würde ich das nicht unbedingt.
The aspitriglos is edible though I do not actually recommend it.

Griffin NoName

Quote from: Scriblerus the Philosophe on February 11, 2008, 11:27:47 PM
Seriously! I never got into the who reality TV thing, either. But then, I suppose, it's the same thing that drives some to watch soaps. More of the same.

Not the same - can't stand reality - adore certain soaps which seem to me to be an escape from reality, the plots are so far fetched. I especially like the hospital ones where the patients and their relatives get endless attention from the medics, fires break out every other week, and the medics mistakes are always found out. ;)
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pieces o nine

Quote from: Griffin NoNameNot the same - can't stand reality - adore certain soaps which seem to me to be an escape from reality, the plots are so far fetched. I especially like the hospital ones where the patients and their relatives get endless attention from the medics, fires break out every other week, and the medics mistakes are always found out. ;)
Have you watched the dvd of 28 Days, just to see the "lost" episodes of the Santa Cruz, the soap they watch? Tiny seizure clusters!
"If you are not feeling well, if you have not slept, chocolate will revive you. But you have no chocolate! I think of that again and again! My dear, how will you ever manage?"
--Marquise de Sevigne, February 11, 1677

Griffin NoName

Quote from: pieces o nine on February 13, 2008, 06:05:20 AM
Quote from: Griffin NoNameNot the same - can't stand reality - adore certain soaps which seem to me to be an escape from reality, the plots are so far fetched. I especially like the hospital ones where the patients and their relatives get endless attention from the medics, fires break out every other week, and the medics mistakes are always found out. ;)
Have you watched the dvd of 28 Days, just to see the "lost" episodes of the Santa Cruz, the soap they watch? Tiny seizure clusters!

No I haven't. I could barely cope with 24 hours.
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