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Started by Sibling Zono (anon1mat0), October 11, 2009, 03:57:02 AM

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Is Edward Cullen from Twighlight a Republican?

He made the abstinence pledge
2 (20%)
He drives a Volvo and GOPhers only drive American, right?
0 (0%)
EMOs don't vote
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How can you ruin such awesome books by suggesting that?
0 (0%)
Just look up who wrote the books
3 (30%)
Twithlight? WTF is that?
5 (50%)

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Sibling Zono (anon1mat0)

I was reading Cleolinda's magnificent parody of the movie, and some more from two (guys/gals?) and it came to me, could it be that Edward Cullen is a card carrying Republican? Perhaps a Mike Huckabee follower?

Or am I completely off the bat on this one?
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pieces o nine

Another Cleolinda fan, right here at the Monastery! 
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Scriblerus the Philosophe

I LOVE Cleolinda. I read her recaps and immediately fell in love her. I believe your second link is two ladies. I also add this (awesomeawesomeawesome) parody to the list, called The Most Popular Book in the Whole World. I have rarely laughed so hard.

Quote from: excerptXlormp turned to look at me, and his eyes bugged out of his head. Literally. Not in that figurative way that most people talked about, but I mean his eyes really extended from his face and sort of goggled around in my general direction. I guessed that was probably part of being a space alien. It confused me, and sort of made me want him more.

I have read these books (you can't hate something properly until you've read it) and yes he is a Republican (abstinence, Family Valuestm, etc.) And like all good Republicans, he has a secret kink, which is his horribly unhealthy D/s relationship with Bella. And his pillow-biting habit during sex.


Also, I object to calling Edward and friend vampires, because they are not. Vampires don't sparkle in the sun, they explode/burn/etc. Edward and the rest are hemogoblins.
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Sibling Zono (anon1mat0)

Emo-goblins?
:mrgreen: :mrgreen:
I'll check that link in detail.  :thumbsup:
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Darlica

The sparkling thingys in Twilight not vampires.

Bela Lugousi's Nosferatu, even Christopher Lee's cheesy Count now we are talking vampires. ;D 
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beagle

Hmm sorry, missed that one so far.  Did see Merlin for the first time. It seems entirely populated by those teenage boy/girl band members whose acting was too bad to get them into Demons (which is saying something).  FWIW I suspect Merlin is probably a Liberal Democrat and Arthur a Young Conservative.


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Griffin NoName

Have seen one episode of Merlin and agree. Definitely a liberal democrat. Unfortunately the program is on at a time that I rarely watch TV, and doesn't rate important enough to record, otherwise I am sure I'd get hooked. Seems like an excellent Demons for chidlren. I like the analogy.
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Scriblerus the Philosophe

SPOILERS [based off what I remember from the books, which I read last spring]

Brief overview of Twilight for the blissfully unaware (which will encompass all three books, plus Midnight Sun, which is basically the first book from Eddie's perspective) :

Written by a crazy Mormon lady from Phoenix, AZ. named Stefanie Meyers

Bella Swan is a silly girl from Phoenix who moves to Forks, Washington because her mom has married some baseball player. Her dad is the county sheriff (or something), and is named Charlie. She calls him this throughout the entire book.
She hates rain, her truck, and everything about Forks. She is clumsy. Bella shuns all contact with males in Forks and is too socially retarded to deal with the girls.
She sees Edward Cullen and immediately falls in love with this too perfect being, who is really a jerk and has no idea what to do about the fact that he both wants to eat her and hug her. Awkwardness ensues. He saves her from a flying car and then advocates to his "father" Carlsile Cullen that they kill her because she is beginning to figure out that something about the Cullens are off (there are, like, six of them, and four are in school with Bella).

Annnnd then nothing happens to her because, well, that would wreck the story (it actually might have been interesting and far more gothic if she had had to save herself, but they fell in love anyway). Anyway, she goes off to Seattle to go shopping or something, and is almost eaten by some psycho vampire guy whose name I forget. Eddie shows up because the Cullens have figured out that what's-his-face is going after her because Eddie likes her (if I recall). He shows up in his Car of Awesomeness and forces her to get in so he can save her and then they end up eating lunch together. Psycho Vampire Guy uses Edward's affection for Bella by then goes to threaten her mom in Phoenix. She runs back there, and Edward and friends follow. Psycho Vampire Guy gets killed. He has a wife, who will reappear later.

And for a zillion pages, it's sappiness that involves her cooing over his pretty sparkleness and supposed perfection in every single way. Then it's her birthday, a glass vase breaks when she's at their house, and she gets cut. Carslisle hustles her out because he's the only one with enough self control not to want to eat people when they bleed (he's also a doctor at the local hospital, in some sort of bizarre Protestant need to punish himself for what he is [his father was a pastor guy in Germany during the Reformation]).
It's then that Eddie decides he can never be around her again, and when he tells her so, he takes her out into the woods. She freaks out, looses her mind for a while, and he leaves her in the forest while he goes and collects anything and everything that he ever gave her, pictures of them, or that will remind her of him.

Oh, did I mention he started sneaking into her room to watch her sleep from the day after the flying car incident on? Well, he did. She doesn't find it creepy at all (in fact she loves it) though he chastises himself from the get-go for being a creepy stalker. As I understand it, the fact that he can't hear her thoughts (and he can hear EVERYONE else's) fascinates him, plus her blood smells like freisa. On nom nom.

Anyway, she spends hours wandering around in the woods, completely out of her mind. There's an Indian reservation nearby, and Charlie is friends with a bunch of them. One of them (who we later find out is a werewolf, such as they exist in this series), finds her and brings her to Charlie who calls off the search effort.
And here, the publisher let her waste like a hundred pages of BLANK PAPER to show how utterly lost she is. However, right after she comes out of it, my very favorite part of the book comes, where she claws the stereo system the Cullens had given her for her birthday out of her truck with her bare hands. She apparently did it in the rain while she was crazy and she finds it in her closet, covered in blood.

Charlie has never approved of Edward and pushes her toward Jacob, an Indian dude whose father he's friends with. She does indeed become friends with him, though with the intent to use him to kill herself.
Also, did I mention that Edward and Bella have dueling suicide attempts?
Jacob develops a huuuge crush on her and becomes horribly passive aggressive when she makes it clear she isn't interested (which sucks, because in the book he's introduced in, he's an awesome character, as are all the werewolves. The general theory is that Meyers realized she had made Jacob a far more likable character than Edward, Which Could Not Be, so she assassinated him).

Anyway, so she spends a lot of time hanging out with Jacob and his friends and one day, they decide they're going cliff diving. One of Edward's sort-of sisters is a seer and she freaks out because she thinks Bella died because she can't see on the reservation (an allusion to how Indians are a Lost Tribe or something and are therefore unworthy in the Mormon god's sight). And I can't remember is she knew that Jacob and a few others were werewolves yet. I think she did.

Previously, Bella had done risky things, including walking towards a bunch of creepy guys who tried to talk to her when she was at the movies out of town. Edward, in his creepy stalkery ways, had been keeping an eye on her that night and saved her from possibly being assaulted.

So Edward and friends come rushing out to save her and then there's some sort of territorial dispute because the werewolves know what the Cullens are and don't like them. Peace is reached because everyone loves t3h Bella (which is completely inexplicable because she's emotionally weak, obnoxious, and generally pathetic).

Bella and Edward get back together. Gushing about Edward, bowing to his every whim, letting him tell her what to do, and passive aggressive behavior from Jacob ensues. At some point, Edward has to leave, so he pays the seer sister to basically hold her hostage until he gets back, under the guise of a sleep over. Bella is aware of this, and doesn't seem to mind.

And I skipped the fact that the Cullens are in trouble/having issues with the Vampire Council guys in Italy. I don't remember why. This will come into play later.

As graduation approaches, Bella starts pressuring Edward into marrying her--she's eighteen and aging, he isn't. And then he proposes, and she accepts, and the Carslisle and Esme (his wife) pull some strings to get her into Dartmouth. As the wedding approaches, she starts thinking college first might be a good idea. This is the very first mention of any ambition Bella has or interest in anything that isn't Edward-centric. And then she doesn't go anyway, so it doesn't matter. They get married, despite Bella's mother's objections. This is also the last time she will see any of her human family and friends. After this, they will stage her death so she can become a vampire.
Bella and Edward go to Brazil for their honey moon. Naturally, Edward speaks Brazilian Portuguese. Here is possibly one of the few good moments of the series, when Bella starts having her virginal freak out. And then gets over it, sort of. Pillow biting sex ensues. Meyers mentioned how cold vampires are--in facts, she emphasizes it throughout the books. So I have questions here. Popsicle?

Mysteriously, Bella gets pregnant. Everyone freaks out because THAT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN. Her pregnancy progressive super fast and the demon spawn (aka "Nessie") starts EATING her, so she has to start drinking blood so Nessie quits eating her. Right before birth, Nessie starts breaking her ribs, spine, and her pelvis. And then she nearly bleeds to death so Edward makes her a vampire to save her life. She's out cold for about three weeks, during which Nessie has already reached toddlerhood. After she wakes up, they name the little monster Renesme (after their mothers). Nessie can talk already, and apparently feels bad for nearly killing her mother.
Here's the super creepy part: Jacob imprints on Nessie. Meaning she's his other half. Granted, the relationship will revolve around her needs--whatever she needs Jacob to be, he will (friend, brother, husband, etc)--and she IS going to mature physically and mentally at a super fast rate. She'll be a full grown adult in a few years.
Anyway, the Vampire Council guys hear about Nessie and her family has to show them she's not what they think she is. They somehow find another dhampir like her from Brazil, who is a hundred years old and totally non-threatening. Anyway, everyone comes to the conclusion Nessie is a-okay and they all live happily ever after.

tl;dr: Meyers never read any vampire/werewolf/dhampir lore and made all sorts of things up. There was an abusive relationship, they got married. They had a baby. She became a super-awesome vampire. The end.
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Darlica

I see I haven't missed anything...  ;D


Thank you Scriblerus!
"Kafka was a social realist" -Lindorm out of context

"You think education is expensive, try ignorance" -Anonymous

Scriblerus the Philosophe

Indeed not. I was involved with a project that was going to be the most horrific parody of it we could write so we figured we should know the books. That died, sadly. :(
"Whoever had created humanity had left in a major design flaw. It was its tendency to bend at the knees." --Terry Pratchett, Feet of Clay

Griffin NoName


What is the source of the current obsession with vampires? or should that go in "Easy Questions"?
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Swatopluk

Quote from: Griffin NoName on October 12, 2009, 04:15:50 AM

What is the source of the current obsession with vampires? or should that go in "Easy Questions"?
They come into fashion at certain intervals (as do wizards, pirates, cowboys...) at least in the movies.
I think the main culprit for starting the new 'in our world' fantasy wave on the book side is that British lady that wrote those books about those child wizards at that sow furuncle boarding school ;). Together with the abominable Lewis revival made by the company not to be named, she likely inspired that untalented Mor(m)on lady to jump on that bandwagon and writing something that GOPsters and their base can also read (that British lady was far too much into tolerance and miscegenation).
What ever one thinks of the other current vampire movies, at least Kate is cool.

http://chockblock.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/kate-beckinsale-underworld-evolution.jpg

As far as child/adolescent vampires go, that's an old hat too:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Little_Vampire

Quote from: Darlica on October 11, 2009, 11:32:58 AM
The sparkling thingys in Twilight not vampires.

Bela Lugousi's Nosferatu, even Christopher Lee's cheesy Count now we are talking vampires. ;D 

Slight correction, Lugosi is never called a Nosferatu but his predecessor Max Schreck was (while leaving out the name of Dracula instead).
http://www.frontiernet.net/~oracle/vamp/nos.jpg http://www.blogcdn.com/www.cinematical.com/media/2007/10/bela-lugosi-1-monster-gallery.jpg http://www.vampyres-online.com/images/christopher_lee_big.jpg

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Darlica

Swato, I stand corrected and bow to your movie-fu!  ;)

"Kafka was a social realist" -Lindorm out of context

"You think education is expensive, try ignorance" -Anonymous

Swatopluk

Another info morsel: In the famous Todd Browning Dracula movie, that made Lugosi famous, the vampire at no time shows his teeth. Either the censors did not allow it or the filmmakers feared that it would be censored. The first vampire with elongated canines* was possibly the one in the Mexican movie El Vampiro.
Btw quite a good film. Iirc I posted a review in the Humbleodeon.

*no, not dachshunds ;); Max Schreck (nosferatur) had not elongated canine but rodent incisors (associating him with rats, while Dracula is connected to wolfs).
Knurrhähne sind eßbar aber empfehlen würde ich das nicht unbedingt.
The aspitriglos is edible though I do not actually recommend it.

Bob in a quantum-state-of-faith

I do remember those elongated rat-like teeth.  Made for an interesting effect, I thought.  On the other hand, although I'm a huge fan of vampirism in literature and film, I did not enjoy that movie nearly so much as I expected to.  But that was years and years ago-- perhaps I should give it a second take.

But, whatever you may say...Beckensale in slick leather was totally hot-- and her 1/2 wolf 1/2 vamp paramour[sp] was hot*, too.   I'd pay good money to see more Beckensale-as-a-vamp, but alas she just made the two.... the 3rd movie was a prequel, and I did not see it (although I should).


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