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Creationist victims: the movie

Started by Sibling Zono (anon1mat0), February 27, 2008, 12:54:21 PM

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Sibling Zono (anon1mat0)

Reading my gmail account and I find this 'sponsored link' on top:
QuoteExpelled – Ben Stein - www.Expelledthemovie.com - Why is Big Science suppressing the evidence of Intelligent Design?
What better than waking up to the news of prosecution of the 'truth'::) ::) ::)
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QuoteBen travels the world on his quest, and learns an awe-inspiring truth...that bewilders him, then angers him...and then spurs him to action!

.  .  .

To which Ben Says: "Enough!" And then gets busy. NOBODY messes with Ben.
Oi! That Ben has me shakin' in me piratical pumps.

O' course, oi remembers wen he were a speechwriter an scurvy lawyer dog fer Dick Nix.
'Nuff said.
"If you are not feeling well, if you have not slept, chocolate will revive you. But you have no chocolate! I think of that again and again! My dear, how will you ever manage?"
--Marquise de Sevigne, February 11, 1677

Opsa

Here's the trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxGyMn_-J3c

I hoped that this was just comedy, but whew, what propaganda it appears to be! My Dad is a scientist and no-one ever told him that he couldn't believe in God (which he does), or that his religious beliefs were in conflict with his career. That is flat-out sensationalist deception.

Eww, I can't wait for my fundy brother to start passing this carp around. That'll be fun. He always responds to this sort of ridiculous stimuli.


anthrobabe

I know I always try to remeber the exact moment in anthropology 101 where they tell you that
You can not believe!

Oh sigh
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#4
that man is scary!


is it just me or does he sound like Mr Garrison?

you can just transplant him into....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsPlFTOX1OY
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Griffin NoName

Quote from: Opsanus tau on February 27, 2008, 03:04:09 PM
Here's the trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxGyMn_-J3c

I hoped that this was just comedy, but whew, what propaganda it appears to be!


I watched all the above links etc. Am I missing something? Didn't seem at all like comedy. It all seemed like propaganda. For real, propaganda.

The only thing of interest was a nice surprise seeing a nice guy I used to know saying Intelligent Design is not a Research Program. He's not a scientist though he is an academic.... I coudln't quite work out why he was in the video.
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Aphos

Quote from: Griffin NoName on February 27, 2008, 06:40:21 PM


I watched all the above links etc. Am I missing something? Didn't seem at all like comedy. It all seemed like propaganda. For real, propaganda.



Yup.  Pure propaganda.

I have been following this since it first appeared on Pharyngula.  Seems the "Expelled" guys interviewed several scientists, including Richard Dawkins, under the pretense that it was a very different movie.  They even had fake web sites so the scientists would believe they were for real.

And it has just gotten sillier and sillier.

They are offering schools a rebate on theater tickets if they get lots of students to go see the movie.  Up to $5 per ticket...providing funds are available.  Yeah, right.

And now they are up in arms because they sent an invitation to a science reporter to see a preview, he went to see it, and wrote a review panning it.  They claim the reporter snuck in pretending to be a preacher...since only preachers were supposed to be invited.

Lots of other silliness involved.
--The topologist formerly known as Poincare's Stepchild--

Opsa

Oh brother!

The reason I thought it might be comedy is because I onlly know Ben Stein from "Ferris Bueller's Day Off" and the TV show "Win Ben Stein's Money". And the Nixon stuff. I guess I just felt he COULDN'T be serious!

anthrobabe

Saucy Gert Pettigrew at your service, head ale wench, ships captain, mayorial candidate, anthropologist, flirtation specialist.

Bob in a quantum-state-of-faith

More on the silly movie Expelled.

In case you've not been watching, PZ Meyers (a noted scientist and blog-writer) went with his family and Richard Dawkins to see a pre-screening of Expelled!.

Myers was not allowed in-- he was spotted by the producer, and ejected.  In Myer's own words, "peaceably, and with no fuss".  Apparently, the producer is something of a jerk, and now admits that he just wanted Myers to have to pay to see the film.

Anyway, one of the guests of Myers, along with Myer's wife and daughter, was Richard Dawkins-- yes that Dawkins.

None of these were spotted as "anti-creationists" and allowed into the screening.

They all report it was abysmal.

Links:

Dawkin's review

One blogger posits that the pre-screenings have been halted:
Pre-screenings cancled?

An account of the whole expelling Myers from Expelled!
PZ Expelled

A video of a discussion between Myers and Dawkins (I haven't watched the vid, yet)
Link to video page

And another statement that seems to think the movie will not be shown as-is (or not-- it may be sarcasm, read for yourself)
Expelled pulled?

A list of PZ Myer's comments about the whole mess:
Pharyngula Expelled!
Another Expelled roundup (includes more links)
New Scientist commentary
Scott Hatfield's take

And, to be "fair" here's a link to the Disco Institutes's take on the subject.  They lie like an unlucky fisherman.  You've been warned ::)
Discovery Institutes's version of events

I especially like this line: "Dawkins apparently acknowledged that he had not been invited and did not have a ticket."

No mention that NO ONE had a ticket.  No mention that NO ONE was actually invited. Read Dawkin's account for his version of what happened.



Sometimes, the real journey can only be taken by making a mistake.

my webpage-- alas, Cox deleted it--dead link... oh well ::)

beagle

Liked this comment to RD's review:

"I still believe that Dawkins has undisclosed Ninja skills which allowed him to go unnoticed by security. "

Evolution's secret weapon. Stealth dons.

Quote from: Opsanus Tau
The reason I thought it might be comedy is because I onlly know Ben Stein from "Ferris Bueller's Day Off" ...

Hadn't heard of him until now.  Looked it up and was relieved he wasn't Ferris or his friends. Don't think I could have handled that...

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Griffin NoName

Quote from: beagle on March 26, 2008, 07:58:54 AM
Evolution's secret weapon. Stealth dons.

Trouble with Stealth Dons is, they go for any port in a storm :mrgreen:
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Aphos

Quote from: beagle on March 26, 2008, 07:58:54 AM

Quote from: Opsanus Tau
The reason I thought it might be comedy is because I onlly know Ben Stein from "Ferris Bueller's Day Off" ...

Hadn't heard of him until now.  Looked it up and was relieved he wasn't Ferris or his friends. Don't think I could have handled that...



Well, he is totally forgettable.  Particularly those annoying eye drop commercials from several years back.  His voice was enough to make you NEVER buy that product again.
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