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Messages - Carl Ne the Shoeman

#1
Spirituality / Re: The history of Hell
December 24, 2006, 05:09:44 PM
Is Heaven hotter than Hell?

The temperatures of Heaven and of Hell are not given specifically in the Bible. That may be because the various temperature scales (Fahrenheit, Celsius, Rankin and Kelvin) were not created by the 1st century CE. However, there is sufficient data available to calculate the temperature of Heaven. The maximum temperature of Hell can also be determined.

Heaven's temperature: Isaiah 30:26 states: "Moreover, the light of the Moon shall be as the light of the Sun and the light of the Sun shall be sevenfold, as the light of seven days." One individual interpreted this passage as meaning that the radiation received by Heaven from the sun is 7 times 7 or 49 times as much as the earth does today. 1 Added to that is the contribution of the moon which would equal the present amount that the earth receives from the sun. Thus Heaven would receive (49 + 1) or 50 times the radiation as the earth does today. The Stefan-Boltzmann law for radiation links the temperature of an object with the amount of radiation received. It would predict that the temperature of heaven would be 498 degrees Celsius hotter than the earth is currently. Thus heaven would be about 525 °C or 977 °F.

However, this temperature would only be the "steady-state" temperature. Presumably Heaven was created shortly after Earth so that it would be ready for its first inhabitants: Abel, Adam and Eve. Revelation 21:17 says that the walls of New Jerusalem are 144 cubits thick. This is about 66 meters or 216 feet. Such a thick wall would be an effective insulator. Heaven would thus have taken many months to reach its equilibrium temperature. But it presumably has reached about 525 °C today.

Hell's Temperature: Revelation 21:8 states "But the fearful, and unbelieving ... shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone." Brimstone is sulphur. In order for sulphur to be molten, its temperature must be at or below 444.6 °C or 832 °F.

Thus heaven is at least 80 °C or 145 °F hotter than Hell. Assuming that the glorified bodies that the inhabitants have in Heaven are as sensitive to heat as our present earthly bodies, then they would suffer greatly; Heaven would become worse than Hell. Since that cannot happen, due to theological considerations, Heaven must have some very effective methods of air conditioning to handle the excess incoming radiation.
#2
Spirituality / Re: The history of Hell
December 23, 2006, 04:13:43 AM
Hell's always an interesting subject of study. You have the Hebrew Sheoul (grave). You have the Greek Underworld and Tartarous. Then you have the Norse underworld, presided over by Loki's daughter-goddess, Hel. Some Buddhist sects have a concept of Hell as a particularly exhausting dimension. The Islamic Hell is only temporary, where its inhabitants can eventually come back to Allah.

Egyptians didn't seem to have Hell, but simply nonexistance to look forward to if you were found lacking. Though that goes with the more Biblical idea of eternal separation from God.

The trash pit was called Gehenna if I remember correctly. NOw its a very lush valley if I recall.

Just some rambling disconnected bits of stuff that I know about the various Hells.
#3
I always liked the Creepy Crawlers Oven thing. http://www.jakkspacific.com/images/creepy_crawlers.jpg

All Christmas carols with few exceptions. I got sick of them long ago when I had to suffer through them for two months while my sister played that on the radio and NOTHING ELSE.

Anything that has to do with cake, icecream, cannolis, cheescake...or a combination of said.

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What's something really stupid, but funny that you did whilst a young, mislead Youth?

Did you ever want to be a priest just for the tax break?

Did you ever wonder if you COULD reenact the whole "Shooting Apple of your HEad" thing? Ever try it?
#4
Best books you've ever read? Fiction and nonfiction.

Of course numero uno is the Satanic Bible by Anton LaVey along with most of his other works (I haven't read the last one he wrote).

The Dark Tower series by Stephen King. Seven books long, great story line, characters, etc.

The Compleat Werewolf by Anthony Boucher was pretty good. The story had a kind of serious plot, but there was so much odd humor.

The ridiculously long Wheel of Time series. I seriously forgot whole parts of my life in the ten thousand some pages I read. Can't wait to finish it (though i think i skipped number 10).

I'll post more later. Whats your favorites and why?

#5
Politics / New Political Party
November 30, 2006, 10:27:40 PM
Lets start one. The old ones are too far opposed to do anything right. No one wants to listen to each other so why not have a political party that serves the best interests of all people?

For fun we can have a red, white, and blue Eagle as our symbol.

What do you guys say?

Me I've always wanted to see a party that A) Isn't ruled by one religion or another B)will pay attention to the enviroment C)Is not going to infringe on the second amendment.

Just a thought.
#6
Well I've finally made it! Hello all!

Thanks Otis for helping me straight that out.

Now do direct me to the Hell Hole.