Creation "Science" Museum

[beagle]

For a while the light of science was at the center of the Muslim world...

Have you guys read/seen Bronowski's Ascent of Man? He covers similar ground. After pointing out how the church's actions against Galileo shifted the scientific centre of the world from the Mediterranean to Northen Europe in the 1600s, he ends his book with similar sentiments to Bluenose about a retreat from rationalism in the West (and that was in the 70s).

What would Barbie make of Bibleman?

They're probably made on the same Chinese production line where the workers would laugh at the mad Westerners if they weren't so underpaid.

Barbie would have to compete with BibleGirl.  She doesn't look too Biblical to me, except possibly in the Delilah/night shift at Madam Fifi's sense.  One wonders what Bibledad is going to say when his teenage daughter starts dressing like Biblegirl.

[Swatopluk]

Btw, how can you have true bible-team adventures, if no opponents are available?
Or is it presumed that evil toys are present everywhere in any case?

There was for some time a Museum of Lies somewhere in Brandenburg (I fear they had to close due to financial irregularities/lack of money).

Somewhere in the US there is a museum of product flops. With some objects it is quite surprising that they failed (e.g. coffee bags analogous to tea bags [before instant coffee was invented]) and with others how somebody could have had the idea in the first place (e.g. peas in fries form to fool children).

[Sibling Lambicus the Toluous]

Corn-on-the-cob at roadside stands here is inevitably billed as 'Taber Corn' and naturally, is held to be superior to any other area's corn.

Ah.  Around here, the "prestige" roadside corn is labelled "Peaches & Cream" for some reason.

Or... perhaps they mean "Taber Corn" as in "corn with which to tabe", where "to tabe" means "to enjoy heartily".

Or perhaps I just made all that stuff about "tabing" (sp? tabeing?) up.  

Btw, how can you have true bible-team adventures, if no opponents are available?
Or is it presumed that evil toys are present everywhere in any case?

It would be funny if they started selling "Satan Man" action figures or the like.

There was for some time a Museum of Lies somewhere in Brandenburg (I fear they had to close due to financial irregularities/lack of money).

That's hilarious! 

It would have been funny if along with that, their revenue suffered because their maps purposely gave the wrong directions to the museum.

Somewhere in the US there is a museum of product flops. With some objects it is quite surprising that they failed (e.g. coffee bags analogous to tea bags [before instant coffee was invented]) and with others how somebody could have had the idea in the first place (e.g. peas in fries form to fool children).

That coffee-teabag idea sounds good... and ideal for camping.  I'm not a fan of instant coffee.

[Aggie]

I have coffee-teabags (recently manufactured) - they are a combination of instant and ground coffee.

And I'm pretty sure I've had snack food made of peas, but formed similar to fries.

[Swatopluk]

Ideas can come too late or too early (and the marketing can fail*). Jules Verne predicted the fax machine** but his publisher found the idea so absurd that the short story was just filed (not published) and only found a few years ago.

* a detergent billboard ad flopped in Saudi Arabia. It showed a heap of dirty laundry on the left, a heap of clean laundry on the right and the product in the center (together with a foaming wash-tub). I had to laugh out loud when I "got it".
**you put a document into the device, the device sends the info over the wire and at the receiver a copy is printed.

[Griffin NoName]

[Have you guys read/seen Bronowski's Ascent of Man?

Never read it, but I know his daughter - does that count?

Barbie would have to compete with BibleGirl.  She doesn't look too Biblical to me, except possibly in the Delilah/night shift at Madam Fifi's sense.  One wonders what Bibledad is going to say when his teenage daughter starts dressing like Biblegirl.

Ok. You got me hooked there. I've been searching through to see if I could buy BibleGirl, but it seems she is not for sale. (That's the nifty one in the header, not the highly armoured one further down in the actual for sale section which sadly only available from "A Christian Retailer Near You").

Btw, how can you have true bible-team adventures, if no opponents are available?
Or is it presumed that evil toys are present everywhere in any case?

It would be funny if they started selling "Satan Man" action figures or the like.

There are plenty of evil ones in the Bible - I reckon it won't be long til they start producing them. Must keep an eye on that website 

I visited the Museum of the Anti-Christ in Leningrad (when it was Leningrad). It was pretty amazing.

[Bluenose]

For a while the light of science was at the center of the Muslim world...

Have you guys read/seen Bronowski's Ascent of Man? He covers similar ground. After pointing out how the church's actions against Galileo shifted the scientific centre of the world from the Mediterranean to Northen Europe in the 1600s, he ends his book with similar sentiments to Bluenose about a retreat from rationalism in the West (and that was in the 70s).

One of those few television series that actually added to human knowledge, regretably most operate in the reverse direction.  I have had the book since it was first published in paperback, and it is getting a bit dog-eared now.  I still like to dip into it every now and then, I always find something worthwhile.  If any siblings come across it in a second hand book shop, I thoroughly recommend buying a copy for yourselves, you will not regret it.

Getting back to the rest of this thread and Bibleman, biblegirl and even Devilman etc, I think that ridicule is certainly one way to approach the issue of these laughable attempts to put forward religious scripture as science, but I suspect that it will only appeal to the already (un?)converted.  the Australian Constitution is generally light on civil rights etc, but it does contain an explicit ban on the "establishment" of any religion, in other words it enshrines the doctrine of the separation of church and state.  My knowledge of the US Constitution is not encyclopedic, so I ask our American siblings to what extent does the US Constitution embody this IMO important concept?  I realise that there are always going to be issues of the government of the day not paying a lot of attention to Constitutional matters, but it is a start.

Sibling Bluenose.

BTW, please feel free to continue with the humourous posts, I am enjoying them!

[Swatopluk]

Ascent of Man was one of the early prestige projects of the BBC in colour (after Civilisation paved the way [both are on my shelves as DVD boxes]). But a true (=WASP) Xtian has of course to dismiss it. How can you believe anything presented by a Jew from Eastern Europe.
I am still amazed how consistently different the US and UK documentary style are (and that since the dawn of time). I clearly prefer the latter.

[Opsa]

As far as I can tell, the "seperation of church and state" in the US is easily trumped by one's religion if one comes from a religion that insists that it alone is right and will save mankind by making everyone else agree.

There is nothing scientific about those Christian Scientific museums, as they fail the scientific method test.

[Bluenose]

Good point Ops.  I have always maintained that you should never trust anyone who "knows" that he/she is right.  IMHO there is always room for doubt.  I do not believe in any gods, in fact based on the available evidence, I am as sure that they do not exist as I am sure of anything, including that I do exist.  However, I could be wrong - on both counts although I think the probablilty is low.

Maybe we really are the dream of the great sky turtle and we all better shut up before we wake him up!

[DaveL]

Remember that episode of the Simpsons, where Bart has to hang out at the with Todd and Rodd Flanders. They sit around playing a video game called Billy Graham's Bible Blaster. Yes, it really does exist - but only on the Simpsons website. Here it is!!

http://www.thesimpsons.com/characters/home.htm

Go to F - then Todd Flanders.

I wonder what video games are out there to suck the kids in, similar to the theme park?

[Griffin NoName]

I am having unclean thoughts about a series of Bible-Blaster-Bashing video games. 

Moses fails to part the Red Sea. Series I.

[Swatopluk]

We had that discussion at TOP/Omnia about that Biblical Counter-Strike clone where you have to fight/convert the UN/Antichrist in New York based on the Left Behind novels.

[Bob in a quantum-state-of-faith]

Barbie would have to compete with BibleGirl.  She doesn't look too Biblical to me, except possibly in the Delilah/night shift at Madam Fifi's sense.  One wonders what Bibledad is going to say when his teenage daughter starts dressing like Biblegirl.

The first thing I noticed about biblegirl is that she had-- well, "huge tracts of land".  She made plain Barbie's "land" look small by comparison.....

Hmmm.

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We had that discussion at TOP/Omnia about that Biblical Counter-Strike clone where you have to fight/convert the UN/Antichrist in New York based on the Left Behind novels.

Didn't that video game tank in sales?  I seem to remember reading somewhere or other, that it's sales were dismal, after the initial disappointing surge.

(or maybe I'm just fantasizing this.... it would validate rational thinking, if true... <heh> )

[beagle]

The first thing I noticed about biblegirl is that she had-- well, "huge tracts of land".  She made plain Barbie's "land" look small by comparison.....

It was the mini-skirt, lace up boots and black stockings that first made me think I must have skipped school the day Religious Education classes covered dress codes for exceptionally devout women.  However she does indeed seem amply endowed higher up, and that tastefully understated top shows it off to full advantage.