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Title: to the memory of Colin
Post by: E.Raser on August 22, 2008, 09:21:35 PM
Colin, the whale who believed that a boat would be his mother, and it has been killed from these scientists who cannot give the milk to a young whale.
Pittwater, Sydney, Australia.22th august 2008.

Dear Colin, I hope I will not confuse a boat with the Mother, when I'll die.
Title: Re: to the memory of Colin
Post by: Griffin NoName on August 22, 2008, 09:30:48 PM
I am going to find a url link for Colin - I will update this post with it.

Welcome home E.Raser - study boats carefully - some have pirates - some have scientists.

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EDIT

Lost baby whale euthanised in Australia (http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5jTIRKByDoBXihLG7NmRr0u1nN3gw)

Bluenose - DaveL - what on earth is going on in Australia?  Thank goodness E.Raser has brought this problem to us here at the Monastery.

Title: Re: to the memory of Colin
Post by: Aggie on August 22, 2008, 09:40:25 PM
Hopefully they will learn from the way things went.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24227013-421,00.html

It sounds like the end was not easy.
Title: Re: to the memory of Colin
Post by: Griffin NoName on August 22, 2008, 09:44:19 PM

I bet they didn't try fixing a false bottom (with external teats) filled with milk to that ship.

A whale summit?  Always wondered what the view from the top of a whale would be like.
Title: Re: to the memory of Colin
Post by: Sibling Zono (anon1mat0) on August 22, 2008, 09:52:46 PM
Obviously the reasons for not feeding her are notoriously absent. I would guess that nobody wanted the responsibility nor foot the bill for trying to save her and the cheapest solution was implemented.
Title: Re: to the memory of Colin
Post by: Aggie on August 22, 2008, 09:55:50 PM
Quote from: Griffin NoName on August 22, 2008, 09:44:19 PM
I bet they didn't try fixing a false bottom (with external teats) filled with milk to that ship.

I've read (elsewhere) that a group was trying to do exactly that, but were disallowed. :P

I don't know the details.
Title: Re: to the memory of Colin
Post by: Bluenose on August 23, 2008, 02:25:08 AM
As I understand it, the Parks and Wildlife people were acting on the best advice they had available.  They tried to take the animal out to sea a couple of times to find it's mother or to see if it might get adopted by anothe pod, but to no avail.  From what I could see, the people who were allegedly trying to come up with feeding arrangements seemed more intent on having a go at the people from Parks than anything else.  The "equipment" they were proposing was pathetic - how they though it would work is beyond me.

I believe that a dead whale has been found floating off the south coast of NSw and that the authorities are going to attempt to get a DNA sample so they can see if it is the baby's mother.  A PM is being conducted on the baby whale to see if they can identify why it was abandoned, I do not know the results yet.  Of course, if it turns out that the mother had died for some reason, that would explain why it was alone.
Title: Re: to the memory of Colin
Post by: E.Raser on August 23, 2008, 12:55:00 PM
Quote from: Sibling Zono (anon1mat0) on August 22, 2008, 09:52:46 PM
Obviously the reasons for not feeding her are notoriously absent. I would guess that nobody wanted the responsibility nor foot the bill for trying to save her and the cheapest solution was implemented.

Collette should drink 230 litres of milk a day x 365 = 83.950 litres = 90.000 $
and the bill could be about 500.000 $ for 1 year.
The yacht of Flavio Briatore is for rent at 245.000 euro/week and to go to petrol station are 270.000 euro.
So...1 year of life for Collette = 1 week for the yacht Force Blue. :-\ :-\ :-\

There is an article of Prof. Giorgio Celli on the newspaper Il Resto del Carlino ( how many $$$$$ ????? )
He writes that whales often love to scratch themselves on the ships, and we do not play God, because lost cubs must die, and we have invented the public moral, we, not God  . :o :o :o :o :o

Anyway I believe that in one month I will not remember more about Collette, except the fact of identification, outside conscience, of a boat in the mother.
Because when I'll die I do not want to follow a plate of spaghetti, even if I like them .

http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=EdM8PDu6VMg
Title: Re: to the memory of Colin
Post by: Sibling Chatty on August 23, 2008, 10:10:08 PM
That song always comes into my head when I hear the phrase "Homeland Security".

I also like this version.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEfcbBtypi4
Title: Re: to the memory of Colin
Post by: E.Raser on August 24, 2008, 10:24:02 AM
Quote from: Sibling Chatty on August 23, 2008, 10:10:08 PM


I also like this version.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEfcbBtypi4

fine.
but the deed of the umbrella before the shield is not correct.
before the star war's shield the correct position of umbrella (e/o sunshade ) it is on the cavity of the elbow of left arm.   
Title: Re: to the memory of Colin
Post by: Black Bart on August 26, 2008, 03:21:14 PM
Oh my god I do not believe it...I thought British TV was bad enough...Look I've got Germans staying with me...Leave it out with the Nazi references you bunch of trouble makers!!!!

Luckily they're out visiting the Torture Chamber at Madame Tussauds at the moment.

Title: Re: to the memory of Colin
Post by: beagle on August 26, 2008, 08:45:31 PM
Is that the room with the Victoria Beckham waxwork?

I do hope you are on your best behaviour and aren't doing a Basil Fawlty.
We had German exchange students staying when I was about 8 (they were university students). They used to let me listen to the police (not the band) on the radio in their Beetle. Would pinch my box of Rice Krispies though (apparently breakfast cereal was a novelty to Germans in the 1960s). They were great fun and very polite; though the bloke would make strange crashing noises in the middle of the night as he negotiated his  way through the house in the dark to the girl's room. Years later I learnt eventually my father had tactfully made it clear he didn't care if they slept together as long as they didn't break any more furniture during the foreplay.
That's my recollection of the Swinging 60s...

Title: Re: to the memory of Colin
Post by: Bruder Cuzzen on August 26, 2008, 09:05:25 PM
E !

It is very good to hear from you again , although unfortunate that you bring sad news .

I was hoping the last video you posted back there was manipulated by a computer program , but it was all true .I feel those marines got off lightly , there ought to be a website devoted to keeping track of people like them .
If they can do such a thing to a poor little puppy , what else are they capable of ?
Title: Re: to the memory of Colin
Post by: Opsa on August 26, 2008, 09:57:11 PM
 :'(
:pillar:
Title: Re: to the memory of Colin
Post by: E.Raser on August 28, 2008, 06:17:26 PM
Quote from: Bruder Cuzzen on August 26, 2008, 09:05:25 PM

If they can do such a thing to a poor little puppy , what else are they capable of ?


uahuahuah.......do you remember David Mortari?
and those false pirates of Dukes, Warlord of Elephants, Cardinal Queequeg and so on ???
why false ??????
because they like wars without liking to die.

David Mortari is an hero now

http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=qBerVyL7oA4

may be he is training himself to launch whales against Russian missiles in the
George Bush's shield
Title: Re: to the memory of Colin
Post by: Sibling Zono (anon1mat0) on August 28, 2008, 07:43:52 PM
Those guys think throwing puppies down a cliff is fine???  :o

They reach a new low now.
Title: Re: to the memory of Colin
Post by: beagle on August 28, 2008, 08:04:38 PM
Quote from: E.Raser on August 28, 2008, 06:17:26 PM
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and those false pirates of Dukes, Warlord of Elephants, Cardinal Queequeg and so on ???
why false ??????
because they like wars without liking to die.

Things sound like they're livening up over there since the schism. Who's declaring war on whom?  Don't most pirates believe in violence without necessarily enjoying being on the receiving end?

Title: Re: to the memory of Colin
Post by: Sibling Zono (anon1mat0) on August 28, 2008, 08:19:52 PM
Quote from: beagle on August 28, 2008, 08:04:38 PM
Don't most pirates believe in violence without necessarily enjoying being on the receiving end?
Oh, but they are willing to take their chances, pirates are involved and they are willing to risk themselves for profit.

It sounds more like a case of armrest generals.
Title: Re: to the memory of Colin
Post by: Sibling Chatty on August 29, 2008, 12:43:30 AM

Quote from: E.Raser on August 28, 2008, 06:17:26 PM
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and those false pirates of Dukes, Warlord of Elephants, Cardinal Queequeg and so on ???
why false ??????
because they like wars without liking to die.

Which proves one of my favorite points...rightwing athiests like to pretend to be enlightened or free-thinking or whatever, but they're STILL militaristic, from-the-sidelines cheerleaders, NOT attempting-enlightenment human beings...and NOT progressive in the least.

That little triumvirate has amused the HELL out of me over the years. At first it was their attempting to fit in, then it was their obvious affinities, searching each other out... I wonder if Cap's ever figured out that they'd LOVE to have a junta strong enough to pull off a coup, but Mr. Passive-Aggressive's not going to displace another female, since there are so many of the supporters that are women/girls.

Ah, well. Fads come, fads go. He's Taco Boy now, and at least has realized he can't slack forever on one idea....no matter how hard he tries.
Title: Re: to the memory of Colin
Post by: Aggie on August 29, 2008, 12:59:22 AM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/65/704_img_13.jpg)
Title: Re: to the memory of Colin
Post by: beagle on August 29, 2008, 07:32:53 AM
Quote from: Sibling Chatty on August 29, 2008, 12:43:30 AM
Which proves one of my favorite points...rightwing athiests like to pretend to be enlightened or free-thinking or whatever, but they're STILL militaristic, from-the-sidelines cheerleaders, NOT attempting-enlightenment human beings...and NOT progressive in the least.

I like progressive music. Any points for that?
Title: Re: to the memory of Colin
Post by: Sibling Zono (anon1mat0) on August 29, 2008, 12:38:45 PM
My dear beagle, you may be a monarchist but an American right wing? ;)

Those guys are more like a cross between Ayn Rand and Benito Mussolini are you up to that challenge? :mrgreen:
Title: Re: to the memory of Colin
Post by: Sibling Chatty on August 29, 2008, 01:41:29 PM
Quote from: Sibling Zono (anon1mat0) on August 29, 2008, 12:38:45 PM
My dear beagle, you may be a monarchist but an American right wing? ;)

Those guys are more like a cross between Ayn Rand and Benito Mussolini are you up to that challenge? :mrgreen:

beagle, honey....

What Zono said. With a vengeance.

I've met WoE. I've had voluminous correspondence with the other two, quite often based on my challenging the assumption that The Divine Right of Middle Aged White Males to Be In Charge, whether they're supposed to have any influence in that area or not, is THEIR personal choice.

The misogynistic and racist Neo-Con Man is NOT something I could ever imagine you to be. For starters, you're too smart to be that duplicitous. If you ever were confronted with the sort of crap I've 'heard' from one of that group, you'd probably puke. And if you acted like you actually wanted to believe it, your brain would probably crawl out your ear and slap you for attempted pollution, because your brain's smarter than to let ya do that...

Title: Re: to the memory of Colin
Post by: beagle on August 29, 2008, 08:41:03 PM
Quote from: Sibling Zono (anon1mat0) on August 29, 2008, 12:38:45 PM
My dear beagle, you may be a monarchist but an American right wing? ;)

All the most liberal countries are constitutional monarchies, Scandinavia, the Netherlands, Canada, New Zealand, Australia etc   ;)

Besides it confuses Republicans when you call them lefty revolutionaries.
But thanks all for the vote of confidence.
Title: Re: to the memory of Colin
Post by: Griffin NoName on September 01, 2008, 10:25:18 AM
I am suddenly struck by concern regarding the relative sizes of Beagle's brain and earholes.

Also, a bit hazy on details. Is Bush going to launch Wales on the Russians?  If so, the language and road signs which all seem to always say "no through road" may be useful attributes.
Title: Re: to the memory of Colin
Post by: beagle on September 01, 2008, 01:30:43 PM
Quote from: Griffin NoName on September 01, 2008, 10:25:18 AM
I am suddenly struck by concern regarding the relative sizes of Beagle's brain and earholes.

If you're inferring what I think you are then I've never been so humiliated. Well, not without paying for it, anyway.
Title: Re: to the memory of Colin
Post by: Griffin NoName on September 01, 2008, 02:08:51 PM
Quote from: beagle on September 01, 2008, 01:30:43 PM
Quote from: Griffin NoName on September 01, 2008, 10:25:18 AM
I am suddenly struck by concern regarding the relative sizes of Beagle's brain and earholes.
If you're inferring what I think you are then I've never been so humiliated. Well, not without paying for it, anyway.

Have forgotten why I was concerned, but given your reply, it seems I was right to be so ;)

Not sure what this has to do with Colin, or Colette, but I feel a sudden need to burst into song:

Whales and boats and brains
Took Colin away, away from us
Tra La La
Title: Re: to the memory of Colin
Post by: Black Bart on September 01, 2008, 03:33:06 PM
Quote from: Griffin NoName on September 01, 2008, 10:25:18 AM
I am suddenly struck by concern regarding the relative sizes of Beagle's brain and earholes.

Also, a bit hazy on details. Is Bush going to launch Wales on the Russians?  If so, the language and road signs which all seem to always say "no through road" may be useful attributes.

Lets see em park their tanks in front of this one:

(http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/travelog/welsh_english%20sign.jpg)
Title: Re: to the memory of Colin
Post by: pieces o nine on September 01, 2008, 10:00:23 PM
Thar be fodder fer a lot ov jokes in that sign!
Title: Re: to the memory of Colin
Post by: anthrobabe on September 02, 2008, 05:59:08 AM
Quote from: Black Bart on September 01, 2008, 03:33:06 PM
Quote from: Griffin NoName on September 01, 2008, 10:25:18 AM
I am suddenly struck by concern regarding the relative sizes of Beagle's brain and earholes.

Also, a bit hazy on details. Is Bush going to launch Wales on the Russians?  If so, the language and road signs which all seem to always say "no through road" may be useful attributes.

Lets see em park their tanks in front of this one:

(http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/travelog/welsh_english%20sign.jpg)

Where is that located? I get that it is in welsh-- but where-- what kind of establishment? If you know where this is going
answer anyway