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Title: Oh, the Irony....
Post by: Bob in a quantum-state-of-faith on August 16, 2008, 04:43:18 PM
McSame McCain had the brass-ones to say this:

QuoteIn the 21st century, nations don't invade other nations.

Linky (http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/13/mccain-21-century/)

No hint of remorse, no hint of sarcasm, no hint that he recognized the abject irony of a member of the US government saying that.

None.

Has the man no shame at all?  Not even a shred?

*sigh*

Anyone who actually votes for him is seriously out of touch with reality as the rest of us see it.

Title: Re: Oh, the Irony....
Post by: Griffin NoName on August 16, 2008, 05:16:42 PM
Interesting. I was thinking about Condalina's comment (yesterday?) about not invading close neighbours, because I was wondering if she meant it was Ok if borders were not neighbouring ones.

:irony:
Title: Re: Oh, the Irony....
Post by: Sibling Chatty on August 16, 2008, 05:50:14 PM
Check the dictionary under "delusional".

There's a whole page devoted to the word "Republican" under that entry. ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Oh, the Irony....
Post by: Sibling Zono (anon1mat0) on August 16, 2008, 08:22:30 PM
Wait, didn't dubya said the same these past few days, several times too?

Jon Stewart made fun* of it this past thursday.

*BTW his face wasn't of amusement. 
Title: Re: Oh, the Irony....
Post by: Scriblerus the Philosophe on August 16, 2008, 08:43:34 PM
He must have missed the memo about Iraq and Afghanistan.
Title: Re: Oh, the Irony....
Post by: Sibling Zono (anon1mat0) on August 16, 2008, 10:14:19 PM
Invasion is not OK unless it is done by us... :headbang:
Title: Re: Oh, the Irony....
Post by: Alpaca on August 16, 2008, 11:43:06 PM
Quote from: Sibling Zono (anon1mat0) on August 16, 2008, 10:14:19 PM
Invasion is not OK unless it is done by us... :headbang:

Ah, see, the trick is, that's called Liberation (tm).
Title: Re: Oh, the Irony....
Post by: Sibling Chatty on August 16, 2008, 11:44:05 PM
To paraphrase Ben Franklin in 1776...

OUR invasion is legal, YOUR invasion is questionable, THEIR invasion is WRONG.

::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Oh, the Irony....
Post by: Sibling Zono (anon1mat0) on August 17, 2008, 12:32:10 AM
As usual 'liberation' is a matter of perspective. Both in south Ossetia and in Abjazia the majority of the population has Russian passports and when the Georgian tanks came a fair amount of people crossed the border and are currently as refugees in Russia. The claims of genocide by the georgians seems extreme at this point though, and to complement now there are counter claims of ethnic cleansing by the ossetian militia.

I have the feeling that after Irak we just went back to the XIX century. >:(
Title: Re: Oh, the Irony....
Post by: Swatopluk on August 17, 2008, 09:35:41 AM
Iraq and Afghanistan are no nations, just states, and failed ones to boot (in case of doubt the same holds for the US).
Nothing to see here folks! Don't you liberals have dictionaries to abuse? Take an example in the honorable SCOTUS justice Scalia or eminent legal scholars like Yoo and Baybee (spelling?)
Title: Re: Oh, the Irony....
Post by: Sibling Zono (anon1mat0) on August 17, 2008, 11:00:27 PM
So, a state is a country that can be easily invaded by an overwhelming force, and a nation is one that will launch nuclear missiles to the invader?
Title: Re: Oh, the Irony....
Post by: Swatopluk on August 18, 2008, 07:47:50 AM
With the exception of the Obama Nation. That can be attacked at will.
Title: Re: Oh, the Irony....
Post by: Griffin NoName on August 18, 2008, 01:30:01 PM

Let's see if NATO* can mess things up even further ;)

*a good thing in theory; just like the UN; why don't they work in practice?
Title: Re: Oh, the Irony....
Post by: Aggie on August 18, 2008, 11:32:12 PM
Quote from: Griffin NoName on August 18, 2008, 01:30:01 PM
*a good thing in theory; just like the UN; why don't they work in practice?

Obviously, they need more practice. ;)
Title: Re: Oh, the Irony....
Post by: Griffin NoName on August 18, 2008, 11:40:36 PM
Ah! The old Quentin Crisp line..... how could I forget that one !
Title: Re: Oh, the Irony....
Post by: Aggie on August 19, 2008, 12:24:47 AM
Must've transferred itself to me, as I've just remembered it despite never having heard it before. ;)


Further support for the notion that anything I can come up with has been thought/said/done before.
Title: Re: Oh, the Irony....
Post by: Griffin NoName on August 19, 2008, 02:47:43 PM
For anyone puzzled:

Quote from: Quentin Crisp
"When I was coming to America, I went to the American Embassy and the man asked me 'Are you a practicing homosexual?' And I said I didn't practice. I was already perfect."

Puzzle perhaps for the Easy Questions thread: how does one know if one has an original thought?
Title: Re: Oh, the Irony....
Post by: Sibling Zono (anon1mat0) on August 19, 2008, 03:15:54 PM
According to Plato you don't. That concept makes geniuses just 'mediums' though. ;)