Educating Catholics a mistake?

[beagle]

Problems with original sin 101.

[Scriblerus the Philosophe]

:sigh: The Church has always opposed things like this. I'm starting to loathe the Church. But I expect Pope Palpatine will tell him to shut his trap so as not to scare off the educated completely.

[Bob in a quantum-state-of-faith]

Problems with original sin 101.

this same idiot is exactly like those historical idiots who opposed translation of the bible into common languages....

If he cannot address or answer the questions raised by educated members of his church, what GOOD is he?   Answer: not much.

[Griffin NoName]

Isn't this called shooting oneself in the foot?

Anyways, I thought G-d knew how to deal with being marginalised

[beagle]

Does come across, it seems to me,  as nostalgia for the good old days when rulers were scared of the Pope, and everyone else of the local priest.

[Pachyderm]

Writing in this week's Tablet - a respected Catholic journal - Prof Lash says: "If he had named a particular university or universities, or particular individuals, he might well have had a series of libel actions on his hands.

"Quite what constructive purpose could possibly be served by such irresponsible and wholesale scapegoating of the educated, I have simply no idea."


Easy. Keep them dumb, keeps them compliant. If the only person in the village who can read and write is the priest....

[anthrobabe]

It started going down hill for the Pope(s) about the time old Gutenberg invented that printing press ( I know he probably wasn't the first to invent one) he used to get the word of god to the masses vs them being fed it from the pulpit as envisioned by the high mucky-mucks.

if the people get educated then the rule isn't so strong-- education is a big fear for the church-

[Swatopluk]

It's all the fault of the mathematicians! Math is the root of all heresy and anyone practicing it should be burned at the stake!
(An observer of the Galilei trial actually made that claim  )

[Griffin NoName]

I'm sure I've mentioned it before but my Hassidic cousin considers Universities as very dangerous places, speaking on behalf of his community.

This is "a bit rum" as he was recruited into the Hassidic community at University - I suppose he was rescued. In fact, this is not an uncommon route, so the bishop would be better advised to step up the rescue mission rather than ban education outright or they will lose good fishing grounds.

[Sibling Zono (anon1mat0)]

Taken together, these intellectual trends have resulted in a fragmented society that marginalizes God, with many people mistakenly thinking they can live happy and productive lives without him.

I'd remove that 'mistakenly' from the phrase and endorse the statement.

[The Meromorph]

 
Now that's coming out of the closet!

[stellinacadente]

I am just surprised this kind of statements make it to the press or news these days...

The catholic church (and all his various mutations around the world) is na dhas always been an oax... and the only way they had to keep the crowds tied to them was plain ignorance...

Have you ever read the Malleum Maleficarum? It was the manual by which the Inquisition was supposed to identify witches and witchcraf...

all it does is to define a free thinking person and twist it here and there with their ideas on hell and Satan... puah!

IMHO, Pope Nazinger is the personification of all evils.... I do not see any Bishop commenting on him...
"and God said: let there be light..."

[Swatopluk]

I happen to own a copy of said hammer of witches. The prose is simply awful and the ability to count seems to have eluded the main author (Institoris; the second one, Sprenger, did not actually participate in the actual writing) given his habit to title chapters "X questions on..." with rarely the number of "Questions" in the chapter actually matching that.
In comparision Adolf was worthy of the Nobel prize for literature.
No recommended read that.
Not that better authors were unable to write stuff as poisonous (I have e.g. an intense dislike of St.Thomas Aquinas) but reading the MM/HoW is a torture in itself.
It's telling that the book starts with the basics of all conspiracy theories: Doubts in the premises of the author proves that the author is right and the doubter part of the conspiracy. QED

[pieces o nine]

My personal favorite passages in Hammer  outline the nefarious ways witches make a cleric's privates disappear.

No word on whether they ever got better.

[Sibling Zono (anon1mat0)]

As a lapsed catholic I can say that not all in the hyerarchy think like that, but it is true that the more a person is exposed to rational ideas it becomes harder not to question certain aspects of doctrine.

There is other side to the problem it self (of falling attendence) and it's related to a relative wealth and security of the average European citizen. My sister was pointing out the other day that strife is possibly the best way to propagate religious sentiments, that is, when there is little security of what can happen the next day, the thought of a higher power/plane can bring some solace.

IMO if the church wants to keep their attendance and/or wants to increase it, it must change its approach and make spiritual thoughts a way to reach meaning, rather than a kind of last resort hope.