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Safest City for Zombie Outbreak?

Started by Kiyoodle the Gambrinous, October 26, 2007, 06:35:55 PM

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Kiyoodle the Gambrinous

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Opsa

As a female, my best protection is not to wear a cute nigthie. Everyone knows that zombies only attack you if you're wearing a cute nightie.

Aggie

#2
Are zombies poikilothermic or endothermic? 

Either way, they wouldn't hold up against Calgary weather for long.  Just stay out of the Plus 15. 

It'd be hell in the suburbs here, though...  the streets are a warren and a (organized) crowd of zombies could easily block vehicular exit from entire neighbourhoods.
WWDDD?

Sibling Lambicus the Toluous

I think the reason that zombies are so heavily associated with the Carribean isn't voodoo, it's the zombie-agreeable climate.

The Plus 15 may be okay, but I think they zombies may already have control of the PATH in Toronto.

Swatopluk

I truly recommend Brooks' books (Zombie Survival Guide and World War Z).
No automatic weapons and no SUVs. Better get a bike (no need for fuel, less noisy) and a reliable bolt-action rifle. A katana is very good but you have to learn how to use it (and beware of replicas). Keep away from chainsaws. They need fuel, are noisy, short-ranged and a greater danger to yourself. They are also very messy and likely to splatter you with infectious zombie gore even if you manage to cut it instead of yourself in a fight. Knight's armor is too heavy and wearers known as "canned meat" in zombie circles.
In the arctic, zombies will freeze in winter (becoming temporarily immobile) and thaw again in spring. They may keep "fresh" in permafrost for centuries, so be careful with old but "well-preserved" cossack corpses.
Knurrhähne sind eßbar aber empfehlen würde ich das nicht unbedingt.
The aspitriglos is edible though I do not actually recommend it.

Darlica

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All right a good bike for transportation and some sort of fencing outfit/armour in kevlar for protection but the weapons?  A bolt-action rifle is noisy and it needs bullets and a katana/sword are as you said hard to use.

I suggest the use of crossbows the arrows can easily be modified to make great damage making them heavy and blunt for crushing or with wide rotating sharp heads for maximized wound channels.

I also suggest the use of Naginata "sword on a stick" a type of fighting scythe tradionally used by women and monks in feodal Japan. http://www.n-i-n.com/images/Naginata.jpg
It is easy to use has excellent range and can be used to block an aggressors cut as well as cut of heads and stabbing.

I also think that fire extinguishers with liquid nitrogen can be handy. Freezing should slow them down and make them more fragile and easier to kill. There is also less risk for collateral damage than with a flame-thrower (freeze=slows down stands still, set on fire=runs around setting other things and people on fire).

;D


Don't ask me why I know the things I know or think the way I think, some of my friends think I'm scary, I know waaay to much about weapons, poisonous plants, and killing in general... :o:D

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Pachyderm

People, people, people.

It's easy.

Agree with the bike as to noise, but a rickshaw provides a more stable shooting platform. Plus, once you start escaping, the coolie pulling it is saving you energy. Have a folding bike to nip down those pesky little alleyways the rickshaw doesn't fit.

Crossbow, good idea. Decent range, lots of damage, easy to make ammo.

Dig yourself a nice, deep, big zombie pit. (JCB or Cat digger advised) Lure zombies into pit with promises of "Braaiins". Bet on outcome of zombie/zombie or zombie/non-zombie (if there's folks you don't like...) fights. Rake in money, food, ammo whatever is being bet. Move to Alaska.
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anthrobabe

the comments on the forum are hillarious


Ix-Nay on the car-vay------ don't you all know they won't start!
Also- don't run- especially if a stacked beautiful female- you will trip.

I completely agree with burning the stairs behind you.


Best City------- Buffalo NY- just wait till it snows- 35 steps to city hall and you can see the top 2 only.   (or Washington DC- they'd starve from lack of brains to eat)
Saucy Gert Pettigrew at your service, head ale wench, ships captain, mayorial candidate, anthropologist, flirtation specialist.

Swatopluk

Crossbow good but slow (and a bit of strength needed). Naginata good except in enclosed spaces (use one with detachable shaft).
the US military recommends the lobo (i.e. lobotomizer), a modified shaolin spade. Good rifle can also double as club not to forget the use of the bayonet, zombies are rarely trained to counter it). Brooks also recommends the trench spike (they knew how to do close combat in WW1). Because you should be on the move, nothing too heavy. One should also invest in a decent (i.e. short) haircut. Many were dragged to their death because they forgot that). Be polite and knock on doors before opening them. Zombies in a room will answer with an inviting groan, so you are warned. Beware of bandits and "Quisling zombies", they can be a greater danger than the undead themselves.
Knurrhähne sind eßbar aber empfehlen würde ich das nicht unbedingt.
The aspitriglos is edible though I do not actually recommend it.

anthrobabe

Going light is a good idea--- be mobile and not dependent on mechinery (it will fail).

But balance the going light with extras of critical items- one never knows when something will break- for example- always carry two boxes of matches or lighters- it is really a bummer to get a big pile of sort of dead zombies and then have a dead lighter to light the pile with thereby leaving the job unfinished.

A pry-bar is always handy- not only can you use it to run-through or bash zombies you can pry all sorts of useful things- like if you climb up on top of a roof to escape and then you can pry a stuck window open and get into the building and then slam the window shut behind you. Or if the electricity is out you can pry open the underground gasoline storge tank and obtain some gasoline, of course you are not going to try and drive- the vehicle will not start- but gasoline makes a good hot fire and can be uesful that way.

Roll bandages are a must--- someone will be shot, stabbed or burned and bandages can help them get back on their feet- it's hard to escape zombies with a dangling broken arm. Bandages can be used to fix or tie things that are broken together as well. When escaping from zombies- it is amazing how often it is difficult to find rope and such- it seems like you'll trip over a rope or something until you really need it and then it is nowhere to be found. You can always use a roll of bandages to tie your injured compatriots to a handy pole and leave them for the zombies as well-if you are faced with that type of choice.

TWO WORDS-----

Duck-Tape!!!!!!!!!!

Saucy Gert Pettigrew at your service, head ale wench, ships captain, mayorial candidate, anthropologist, flirtation specialist.

Darlica

Duck-Tape is good!
You can mend almost anything with it, and it make a good improvised pressure bandage.
I always had two rolls of it in my car...

Wonder if that's the reason my SO jokes with me saying I pack like I'm preparing for the end of the world. ::)

I think one has to decide if to go low-tech style or military style. Military style is the easy route but most people at least in Europe doesn't have access to any kind of guns or rifles.
It's easier to make a crossbow than a rifle but it is slow and is probably best used as a defence weapon when holding an building for example. Battle slingshots is another easy to make weapon, it's not the most effective one but it beats throwing stuff by hand... Excellent for primitive home made hand grenades.

I think looking at mediaeval warfare would give a few good ideas about weapons and techniques for a low-tech battle.   
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Swatopluk

Medieval castles are also considered the most effective stronghold against zombie sieges. They were built to be autarkic and to be defended with a minimum of manpower. "modern" defences simply do not work against zombies because they can't be deterred and will exhaust minefields and the like in a short time. Islands are not necessarily safe because zombies can walk on the seafloor and arrive without warning. Fortunately there is an old fortress quite near my home.
Knurrhähne sind eßbar aber empfehlen würde ich das nicht unbedingt.
The aspitriglos is edible though I do not actually recommend it.

Sibling Zono (anon1mat0)

But if the swarm is too big, their bodies would pile until the rest can come in! What would you do then, pour vats of acid or the classic oil burning?
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Swatopluk

Quote from: Sibling Zono (anon1mat0) on October 28, 2007, 07:14:18 PM
But if the swarm is too big, their bodies would pile until the rest can come in! What would you do then, pour vats of acid or the classic oil burning?

Well, in that case a modern building would not be much better. the Spandau Citadel is of course at a disadvantage because its walls were designed for thickness, not height (artillery fort). But the medieval tower would do for some time until the pile remover is ready.
Fortunately it can be attacked directly only from one side. It's difficult to see on this picture but there is a river on the Western side (from where the picture is taken) and the lake one can see on the upper left covers the Northern flank also.

http://www.kulturhaus-spandau.de/images/global/zitadelle_anf.gif.

How defensible is the Pentagon against ground attacks? (I know there is a Zombies on a Plane movie but the undead will probably not start parachuting attacks)
Knurrhähne sind eßbar aber empfehlen würde ich das nicht unbedingt.
The aspitriglos is edible though I do not actually recommend it.