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Title: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Aggie on September 23, 2006, 08:03:24 PM
I swapped templates (millenium earth) and now most of the links are buggered, I can't get to the shoutbox, and I can't see a template selector.  Help!
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: ivor on September 23, 2006, 08:09:51 PM
You could delete all your cookies for the toadfishmonastery.

I can just remove the template.  I think I will cause that one stinks.  The only other one that sort of works is ja_avoir_ex I think.

Sorry folks.  I was working on upgrading the site.  I was hoping that I would get it all done before something bad happened.
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Aggie on September 23, 2006, 08:14:13 PM
Thanks.  Cookies are easy but I didn't realise that'd be all it took.
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: beagle on September 24, 2006, 07:58:25 PM
Darren,

Don't know if you're seeing it in the shout box, but Meromorph is saying he can't post due to session timeout.

I suggested he:
  Checked he had cookies enabled
  Checked his pc clock was right
  Cleared cookies and tried from scratch

or
  used Firefox with Live Headers extension to have a look at what was going on.

I don't think he was on to see the suggestions though, and he may not, or may not be able to, scroll back that far.

Hope they are sound suggestions (I'm a Microserf more than a php/Java type).

Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: ivor on September 24, 2006, 08:08:18 PM
Goto toadfishmonastery.com/forum and log out then log back in.   
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: The Meromorph on September 24, 2006, 11:07:34 PM
I had already done all those things (It wont let me logout (session error))
I just did them all again. If you get this post(this Time), it was Cookies...

And apparently, iIt was. 8)
Thank you for your help. :D
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: ivor on September 24, 2006, 11:55:07 PM
As soon as I get the style sheet straight this problem will go away.  Just a couple more days.
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: ivor on September 25, 2006, 02:06:39 AM
I did a little fixin' and it should be okay now.  I have to get my template issues fixed then everything will be fine.  I have to upgrade to Simple Machines forum RC3 and upgrade the Bridge to 1.1.6.  After that it'll be peachy. 

Let me know if anybody is having login issues now that I have republished the SMF header include mambot.  If you are still having issues get rid of your cookies and goto toadfishmonastery.com/forum and login.  If you still have problems after that let me know and I will work with you to fix it.

Sorry, but I was right in the middle of fixing things up when the "event" happened.  Anyways, a couple more days and it will all be straighted out and we'll have some color around here.

Thanks,
Darren
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: beagle on September 25, 2006, 08:22:04 AM
Thank you for devoting the time to the site...

and it's good to have Meromorph back ;D
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Griffin NoName on September 25, 2006, 10:18:18 PM
Many thanks MentalBlock for rescuing me.

I was "logged in forever" - literally. Even shutting down and powering off and on my computer would not log me out of here.

Although I am delighted to be here, a life permanently locked into a Monastery is not quite what I am after.

I can now logout whenever I choose. Wonderful.

Even better, the site has speeded up and a host of other problems I was having with it have disappeared.
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: beagle on September 26, 2006, 04:30:56 PM
MB,

An old friend of ours tried to register here as Aspitriglos, but now says

"Now I am in a total deadlock.
Can't log in because password is rejected.
Requested new passwords don't reach me.
New registration under other name is rejected because "There is already
one registered under that email address".
Could you try to find the site admin to delete that registration, so I can
try anew.
"
Could you clear it out please so he can retry? And maybe say so here so he can see it? 

Thanks very much.



Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: ivor on September 26, 2006, 11:44:04 PM
Quote from: beagle on September 26, 2006, 04:30:56 PM
MB,

An old friend of ours tried to register here as Aspitriglos, but now says...


I deleted the account.  It looked normal.  The account was registered and activated.

MB
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Aphos on September 27, 2006, 08:01:20 PM
Very odd.  I just had 3 or 4 pop-ups telling me I had a PM on this site, but no such PM was listed.
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Kiyoodle the Gambrinous on September 28, 2006, 03:49:47 PM
Dear MB,

I have this tiny problem...

All the topic names appear in red. It's not that I don't like it, but it's very difficult to read it on the dark background and it hurts my eyes a little.

And I'd like to ask something. Back in the Other Place I Won't Be Mentioning I had the title of Alcohol Boy, written under my name. I got vey used to it and I like it very much. What I wanted to ask you, is it possible to get this title, instead of the title of newbie?

Thanks...
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: beagle on September 28, 2006, 07:29:44 PM
Maybe MB should make sure you qualify by putting you through a certain drinking game test. Along the lines of

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinal_Puff (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinal_Puff)

but "Here's to the health of Cardinal Toadfish". 

Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Bluenose on September 28, 2006, 10:25:58 PM
Quote from: Kiyoodle the Gambrinous on September 28, 2006, 03:49:47 PM

And I'd like to ask something. Back in the Other Place I Won't Be Mentioning I had the title of Alcohol Boy, written under my name. I got vey used to it and I like it very much. What I wanted to ask you, is it possible to get this title, instead of the title of newbie?

Thanks...

Hi Kiyoodle,

If you go to the place where you added your avatar, there is field where you can add you personal text.  This will do the job for you.

Nick
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: ivor on September 28, 2006, 11:45:12 PM
Quote from: Kiyoodle the Gambrinous on September 28, 2006, 03:49:47 PM
Dear MB,

I have this tiny problem...

All the topic names appear in red. It's not that I don't like it, but it's very difficult to read it on the dark background and it hurts my eyes a little.

And I'd like to ask something. Back in the Other Place I Won't Be Mentioning I had the title of Alcohol Boy, written under my name. I got vey used to it and I like it very much. What I wanted to ask you, is it possible to get this title, instead of the title of newbie?

Thanks...

I changed your title.

For the red topic names hit refresh on your browser.  The style sheet had to get updated because I had a double doctype in my html.

MB
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Kiyoodle the Gambrinous on September 29, 2006, 01:58:56 AM
Yay... thanks! I really appreciate this!

You get an applaud from me directly!

;D
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Duke on September 29, 2006, 02:44:57 AM
I tried to send Darren a PM, but I have a sneaking suspicion it didn't work. If it did, Darren, please post here.


Thal
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Aggie on September 29, 2006, 03:19:08 PM
WOW. "View the most recent posts on the forum" makes reviewing the latest posts a snap.  This will make modding and smiting a breeze.
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Aggie on September 29, 2006, 08:38:15 PM
Getting a lot of "Session verification failed. Please try logging out and back in again, and then try again." errors.  Including when I tried to edit this into the above post.  Any suggestions?

Oh, and "Your session timed out while posting. Please try to re-submit your message." when trying to post.
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: The Meromorph on September 29, 2006, 09:31:11 PM
Delete the Cookie and try again. (worked for me :P )
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Aggie on September 29, 2006, 09:44:59 PM
It's hit-and-miss.  Sometimes a couple of previews clear it up (resets cookie?).
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: ivor on September 30, 2006, 12:03:34 AM
Try using the forum outside of Joomla by going to toadfishmonastery.com/forum.  Sorry.  All this should be cleared up by this weekend.

MB
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Aggie on September 30, 2006, 01:40:31 AM
Minor issues.  Glad we've got you to cover 'em!
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Aphos on October 02, 2006, 07:49:11 PM
I think this may be a recurring problem.  At least, I have heard other people complain of it...

The text box for the chat is black with black lettering...rather impossible to read.
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: ivor on October 03, 2006, 12:38:34 AM
Try refreshing your browser.  If that doesn't work tell me what browser you are using.  That should have been corrected Sunday night.

MB
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: The Meromorph on October 03, 2006, 01:06:32 AM
Darren, I manually reset Al Dante's Password via the Administrator panel, and emailed it to him. It tells him "Password Incorrect".  ???
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: ivor on October 03, 2006, 01:27:33 AM
Does it still say that or did you fix it? Sorry.  I am a little slow today.  :wheelchair:

MB
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: The Meromorph on October 03, 2006, 01:31:10 AM
I did it again twice (from the Home page and from the Forum (???)
I've emailed him that one and he's gonna try again... :-\
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: ivor on October 03, 2006, 02:06:16 AM
Hmmm...  He has zero post.  I think I have had to delete accounts with zero post.  Every time I believe.

MB
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Griffin NoName on October 03, 2006, 02:48:15 AM
Another way of clearing up some problems for MicroS**t users is apply registry repair fixes available from the MicroS**t site..... any, all,  :beta: :beta: :beta: :2guns: :2guns: :2guns: :taz: :taz: :taz:
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Aphos on October 03, 2006, 03:04:32 AM
Quote from: MentalBlock996 on October 03, 2006, 12:38:34 AM
Try refreshing your browser.  If that doesn't work tell me what browser you are using.  That should have been corrected Sunday night.

MB

Thanx MB.  That worked.
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Aggie on October 05, 2006, 01:05:41 AM
Quote from: Agujjim on September 29, 2006, 08:38:15 PM
Getting a lot of "Session verification failed. Please try logging out and back in again, and then try again." errors.  Including when I tried to edit this into the above post.  Any suggestions?

Oh, and "Your session timed out while posting. Please try to re-submit your message." when trying to post.

Still getting both errors here.... and have tried logging in and out.  Sometimes I get the second error when trying to logout.  :P

Usually have to preview before posting to clear it up, but certain things still catch me...  sometimes can't applaud.  Deleting cookie may help... I'll check as I haven't done it on this comp yet.
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: ivor on October 05, 2006, 01:15:06 AM
What browser are you using?  Are you using the forum wrapped in Joomla or stand-alone?

MB
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Aggie on October 05, 2006, 01:28:47 AM
Firefox, Joomla-wrapped.  Didn't twig I could go standalone (though thinking back I noticed this in other posts... didn't register).

Better to go stand-alone?  Errors are sporadic and unpredictable, and not major at the moment.
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: ivor on October 05, 2006, 01:57:12 AM
It's really odd.  I use FireFox/Joomla wrapped also but I haven't see a Session Timeout since I upgraded the forum.  Maybe it's cause I am admin?

It might make a difference to go stand-alone.

MB
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Darren996 on October 05, 2006, 02:03:57 AM
Okay.  I am not an admin now.  Let's see if I can post.  ;D
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Opsa on October 05, 2006, 04:52:43 PM
I'm a little slow most days, but at least I keep at it.

The only technical difficulty I'm having now is that when I PM here, I get a wild, wavy line of text where I'm quite certain buttons are meant to be that would read "Quote with reply", etc.

Otherwse, it's working great!
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: ivor on October 05, 2006, 05:06:28 PM
That's I CSS bug that I have yet to look at.  ;D

MB
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Opsa on October 05, 2006, 09:39:27 PM
No big whoop. The function still works, it just wants to be prettier.
:istad:
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: ivor on October 11, 2006, 12:05:51 PM
Hmmm....

I was having a really odd problem with admin functions.  I deleted my cookies and it all went away.  All I see know is the bug with PM buttons.

Anybody else still having problems?

Off topic.  Who is exanglo?  I noticed he/she registered but has not clicked on the confirmation email.

MB
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Aggie on October 11, 2006, 02:50:14 PM
New-ish Omnian crossing over to the dark side.  ;) Not a spambot. 

BTW... haven't heard from the Shoe yet, so I've no idea if he's got things working or not.
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: ivor on October 13, 2006, 12:31:58 AM
I think I see another clue to the session verification problem.  I have my FireFox browser set to remember me but IE6 is not.  I get the session verification bug in IE6 not in FireFox.  Anybody think of anything else?   ;D

MB
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Griffin NoName on October 13, 2006, 01:23:33 AM
No but I can throw a spanner in the works or a fly in the ointment or maybe a red herring. I am using IE6 without remember me and I don't have the problem (W2K) - but I used to get it but even then I didn't have remember me set. Being MS maybe it depends which bit of the registry is corrupt.  ;D
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: The Meromorph on October 13, 2006, 01:24:47 AM
I'm using IE6 (set to remember me). I get session verification problems the second time (separate logon) that I click on Admin. And yes, I have to delete the cookie to fix it,
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Aggie on October 13, 2006, 04:38:53 AM
I have FireFox set to remember me....   ???
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Bluenose on October 13, 2006, 08:55:11 AM
I'm using IE6 (set to remember me). I get session verification problems about once or twice a day.  No discernable pattern, sometimes it works (actually most times) then I will get an error.  The error can happen the first time I attempt to paste/applaud/change profile etc in a session or it can (less often) occur during a session when I have previously been posting OK.

When I get an error, I go to http://toadfishmonastery.com/forum/ (http://toadfishmonastery.com/forum/), which I have saved as a favorite, and log off and back on there and that fixes things.  If you get these problems I suggest you might like to follow the link and add it to your favourites.

BTW, after fixing the problem, if I go "Back" to the previous page, rather than navigating to it by typing the URL or clicking on the usual favorite link, the error returns and has to be "fixed" again.  Don't know if all this helps find out what's going on, but I am sure everyone here appreciated the efforst being made to fix the problems.

Nick
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Vita Curator on October 13, 2006, 12:41:42 PM
I've added the monastery to the top of my favorite places list also, it is definitely "my favorite place" on the web!
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Sibling Chatty on October 14, 2006, 04:19:33 AM
OK, for the FIRST time ever, I got a Session Error.

I was trying to Applaud somebody. Must be contagious...Aggie :o

;)

Now it won't let me post this...

"    
The following error or errors occurred while posting this message:
Your session timed out while posting. Please try to re-submit your message.   "

FEH...
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Sibling Chatty on October 14, 2006, 04:20:43 AM
And then it worked...???
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: ivor on October 14, 2006, 11:30:50 AM
Quote from: Quasimodo (The Meromorph) on October 13, 2006, 01:24:47 AM
I'm using IE6 (set to remember me). I get session verification problems the second time (separate logon) that I click on Admin. And yes, I have to delete the cookie to fix it,

When I have that problem I have been clicking logout (no matter how many times it takes) and then log back in and it works.

MB
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: ivor on October 14, 2006, 11:36:48 AM
Quote from: Sibling Chatty on October 14, 2006, 04:19:33 AM
OK, for the FIRST time ever, I got a Session Error.

I was trying to Applaud somebody. Must be contagious...Aggie :o

;)

Now it won't let me post this...

"    
The following error or errors occurred while posting this message:
Your session timed out while posting. Please try to re-submit your message.   "

FEH...

It's supposed to say something like you can't change karma more than once an hour.  If you're wrapped in Joomla you get this message first then you get the session timeout problem.  If you're using smf standalone you don't get this error.

Mongo not know.
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Sibling Chatty on October 14, 2006, 10:19:25 PM
Is OK, Mongo. Me not know either...

It fix self, and me happy pawn in game of life. :D
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Griffin NoName on October 15, 2006, 04:01:43 AM
Quote from: MentalBlock996 on October 14, 2006, 11:36:48 AM
It's supposed to say something like you can't change karma more than once an hour. 

Hey, I like that !!!!   Banish the happy clappies. Let's have real meaning to our Karma.  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Sibling Zono (anon1mat0) on December 22, 2006, 02:48:18 AM
Just one quick note to our tech admin extraordinaire: when accessing the site from www.toadfishmonastery.com I get a 'page doesn't exist' but when I remove the 'www.' it works. It might be something with the DNS.

Just to let you know.  ;)
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: ivor on December 22, 2006, 07:46:20 AM
Hmmm.... I get redirected to toadfishmonastery.com which is the way it is setup.  Do you still confirm this problem?

Thanks,
MB
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Sibling Zono (anon1mat0) on December 25, 2006, 01:39:08 AM
I just tried and it is working fine. It may have been the DNS of my ISP, afterwards I had to refresh a number of pages.
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: ivor on December 25, 2006, 04:09:21 AM
Thanks anon!  I would rather hear about such things as not hear.   :D
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Opsa on January 08, 2007, 04:10:25 PM
MB, my Duje! It's come to our attention that comments cannot be made by siblings wishing to comment in the Museum Gallery comment boxes. Anything we can do about that?
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: ivor on January 09, 2007, 12:11:42 AM
Hi Opsa,

Who cannot make comments?  Are they logged in?

MB
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Sibling Chatty on January 09, 2007, 01:23:48 AM
I was logged in and coul'nae make nor read the comments...Remember, I are a technodoofus.
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: ivor on January 09, 2007, 01:30:45 AM
Quote from: Sibling Chatty on January 09, 2007, 01:23:48 AM
I was logged in and coul'nae make nor read the comments...Remember, I are a technodoofus.

You clicked on the picture to see it full right?  Not full screen just full.  Like here (http://toadfishmonastery.com/index.php?option=com_zoom&Itemid=4&page=view&catid=1).
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Bluenose on January 09, 2007, 01:38:19 AM
Worked Ok for me.

BN
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: The Meromorph on January 09, 2007, 02:17:41 AM
I can see the comments but cannot add or edit them.
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: ivor on January 09, 2007, 02:37:34 AM
If you want try logging out and back in.  ???
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: The Meromorph on January 09, 2007, 03:59:11 AM
Didn't change anything... :-\
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: ivor on January 09, 2007, 04:16:49 AM
My Darren996 login is fine.  He's just registered. 

What do you see?  No red Xs to delete comments and no add comments box?  You can see the boxes that say garbage like "Nice Pic!"?

I changed you to a Publisher.  Let me know if that makes a difference.
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Sibling Chatty on January 10, 2007, 04:39:29 AM
I'm such a technodoofus my computer committed suicide...

It's been wanting to for months, and finally did. If I ever have my own computer to screw up, instead of Dan's, i'll try again.
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Bob in a quantum-state-of-faith on January 10, 2007, 06:24:02 AM
I seem to have lost the ability to upload content.

I looked and looked for the "upload content" menu link, but it seems to'ave vanished.

Anyone have any thoughts?

(and I can't seem to locate the LOGOUT link as well... *sigh* )
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Bob in a quantum-state-of-faith on January 10, 2007, 06:28:11 AM
Oooookaaaay.  I STILL don't see "log out".

But.  I noticed a tiny (really REALLY small) red "dot" underneath my log statistics (at the left side of the form).

I hovered over it, but nothing "popd up".

Experimentally, I clicked it.

Viola! It logged me out.

A log-back in, and NOW I have the "upload content" and other menu items.

But, I STILL don't have "log out" (except for that cryptic tiny red dot ;D )

I guess, in the words of Rosanne-Rosanna-Danna:

"Never Mind"
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: The Meromorph on January 10, 2007, 03:22:15 PM
Quote from: MentalBlock996 on January 09, 2007, 04:16:49 AM
My Darren996 login is fine.  He's just registered. 

What do you see?  No red Xs to delete comments and no add comments box?  You can see the boxes that say garbage like "Nice Pic!"?

I changed you to a Publisher.  Let me know if that makes a difference.

Nope, no change.    :(


Edit:
I tried Bob's trick and I got
An Error Has Occurred!
Session verification failed. Please try logging out and back in again, and then try again. 
And it wouldn't log me out... ::)
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Opsa on January 10, 2007, 04:10:17 PM
Sometimes mine logs me out when I take a long time to write a post, but I just go to the home page and it automatically logs me back in again. I'm not even sure i know how to log out.

I don't think I can upload any pictures in the gallery, either. (Poor MB, he's probably hiding!) I did manage to re-name some of the toadfish photos, though.
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Bluenose on January 10, 2007, 10:52:08 PM
Try going to http://toadfishmonastery.com/forum/index.php (http://toadfishmonastery.com/forum/index.php) and then selecting logout.

I found when I was having these problems earlier that doing this seemed to work and resolved any little problems I was having.  Haven't had any recently so I cannot verify that this still works, but it might be worth a try.

I'm not sure why this makes any difference but it just seemed that "going naked" on the forums helps somehow.

Bluenose
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: ivor on January 11, 2007, 12:08:10 AM
If you have problems logging out just keep punching the button 'til it logs you out.  The logout button at the top of the forum is as good as the one in the left column menu.

I am so sorry these problems exist.  I just don't have them myself so it is difficult for me to troubleshoot.

MB
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: The Meromorph on January 11, 2007, 03:03:18 AM
This may help...
I normally come direct to the forums...
I tried going to the Monastery home first, it didn't help. ::)
I logged out of the forums, after going in direct.
I logged in at the Monastery Home.
Then it worked!  :o
Now it works from both!  :D
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: ivor on January 11, 2007, 11:01:49 AM
For those that don't know.  The forum program is SMF.  Joomla is wrapping SMF.  When you see the Toadfish Monastery picture at the top you are wrapped in Joomla.  If your browser URL starts with http://toadfishmonastery.com/forum then you are unwrapped.

If you are having trouble with a particular problem with something try logging in and out from Joomla (wrapped) then try it again. 

If you get that Session Verification error don't hit the back button, just keep punching logout.

Mero,

Thanks for your help with this. Let me ask you this. What worked when you logged in from Joomla.

MB
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Swatopluk on January 11, 2007, 12:13:22 PM
The session things turns up for me in the last 2 days occasionally.
Usually copying the content, closing the window and then call the thread again (paste the copied part and hit Post immediately after) works.
is there maybe a timer that blocks Post that are not sent within a certain time after calling the reply menu to create a post?
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: The Meromorph on January 11, 2007, 03:39:10 PM
Quote from: MentalBlock996 on January 11, 2007, 11:01:49 AM
Mero,

Thanks for your help with this. Let me ask you this. What worked when you logged in from Joomla.

MB
The Toadfish Gallery, editing, adding comments, etc. The mysterious buttons people had been talking about appeared and worked...


BTW, Is this what you referring to when you poisoned my mind with an image of you 'posting unwrapped'?
I thought you meant posting naked! Perhaps my reaction makes more sense now you know that?
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Opsa on January 11, 2007, 07:35:52 PM
Quote from: MentalBlock996 on January 11, 2007, 12:08:10 AM
If you have problems logging out just keep punching the button 'til it logs you out.  The logout button at the top of the forum is as good as the one in the left column menu.


Hmm. I don't see any logout button in either place.

Can we put pictures in the gallery yet?
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Kiyoodle the Gambrinous on January 11, 2007, 09:45:25 PM
The logout-button in the Joomla version is a small red circle on the left, under the login form, right under the "Show new replies to your posts" part.
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Opsa on January 11, 2007, 10:31:12 PM
Ohhhhh...  ::)

What would I do without you, Alcohol Boy?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: ivor on January 11, 2007, 11:52:44 PM
Quote from: Swatopluk on January 11, 2007, 12:13:22 PM
The session things turns up for me in the last 2 days occasionally.
Usually copying the content, closing the window and then call the thread again (paste the copied part and hit Post immediately after) works.
is there maybe a timer that blocks Post that are not sent within a certain time after calling the reply menu to create a post?

Nope.  It's just a bug...  Try *copy* *go back one page* *refresh* then try your post again.

I think I need to reinstall SMF and Joomla.
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: ivor on January 11, 2007, 11:56:41 PM
Quote from: Opsanus tau on January 11, 2007, 07:35:52 PM
Hmm. I don't see any logout button in either place.

Can we put pictures in the gallery yet?

The logout button in the upper left would only appear in the forum.

You should be able to upload pictures to the gallery. Click the upload media button (http://toadfishmonastery.com/index.php?option=com_zoom&page=mediamgr&Itemid=4) in the User Menu.

MB
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Kiyoodle the Gambrinous on January 12, 2007, 12:26:53 AM
Quote from: Opsanus tau on January 11, 2007, 10:31:12 PM
What would I do without you, Alcohol Boy?

:blush:

You're testing my humbleness. ;D

You're welcome Opsa, it's always a pleasure to be of service.
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Darren996 on January 12, 2007, 12:51:42 AM
I'll see if I can upgrade the forum tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: ivor on January 12, 2007, 05:27:23 AM
I went ahead and did it just now.

Is everything still working?

MB
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Darren996 on January 12, 2007, 11:42:03 AM
Wow!  I finally duplicated it!

Looks like if you leave the forum open wrapped then come back in after a while and try to post you get the session verification file error. 

I don't have this problem at sedonaview.com I believe.  Can someone verify that?

MB
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Kiyoodle the Gambrinous on March 26, 2007, 11:13:26 PM
I have been having some technical difficulties.

First one was an "Internal Error" (a 505 I think) and the second one was a Joomla window saying that the monastery is unavailable.

Both happened tonight.

The second one happened already once during the week.

Is there some work going on on Joomla or the Monastery? Or is it me?
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Aggie on March 26, 2007, 11:19:02 PM
I got that too... probably a DreamHost blip, as it knocked out another DreamHosted site I visit.  The message seems to depend on whether you are trying to hit the forum or the main page.

They seem to happen on a semi-regular basis and not last too long....
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Griffin NoName on March 26, 2007, 11:36:26 PM
Me too. Few times last few days.
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: ivor on March 26, 2007, 11:38:16 PM
DreamHost and buy sites just don't go together.
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Griffin NoName on March 26, 2007, 11:45:15 PM
Yeh - I hadn't bothered to mention it as had noticed similar probs with another DreamHost site at the same time....

Maybe they just need to rename the Dream part of their name?
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Sibling Chatty on March 27, 2007, 04:15:37 AM
Quote from: Griffin NoName The Watson of Sherlock on March 26, 2007, 11:36:26 PM
Me too. Few times last few days.

Me three. I just go take a nap, and it's all better when I get up again!
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: ivor on March 27, 2007, 01:27:26 PM
When I am a few paychecks into my new job I am getting business FIOS and a new server.  I start the 29th.  ;D
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Opsa on March 27, 2007, 09:54:38 PM
Yeay MB! You go, Duje!
:hug:
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: ivor on March 27, 2007, 10:10:18 PM
DreamHost is just awful.  Everything else is worse or un-affordable.  Business FIOS and a new server should be the bomb-digity.  ;D Dual 64 bit Xeons, Adaptec SATA II raid card with five 300Gb drives set for RAID V.

Any linux gurus out there?

It'll be shared with all my other sites but they don't get that much traffic.
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Griffin NoName on March 28, 2007, 12:13:47 AM
Unix but not Linux.
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: ivor on March 28, 2007, 12:27:47 AM
It's about the same is it not?  I've played with Linux.  I have setup a shared hosting environment but I am not a guru.  It'd be good to have some help.

Do you know if there are any distros setup for shared hosting out of the box?  If there isn't it would be sweet to do that considering the availability of business FIOS and the price of dedicated hosting.
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Griffin NoName on March 28, 2007, 01:43:24 AM
I've never explored differences between Linux and bare Unix. My unix is solid and extensive apart from I never patched the kernel. So theoretically Linux ought to be a doddle.

I don't know of any shared hosting environments out of the box, but I'd be surprised if there aren't any - theoretically. Are you talking about hosting your own sites on your own server? I have known a few people do this; don't underestimate the hassle and time it takes !!

Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: beagle on March 28, 2007, 01:03:02 PM
I do code development on Linux and Windows and Solaris, but don't know a lot about web technologies on Linux (I worked for a web company until recently, but was on the Windows Server/IIS side).

I would have thought it'll be pretty similar to Solaris or other big Unixes for you (except you'll get to spend less time with fsck ;) ). The installation of something like SuSe is much more automated and easy than most big Unixes I know, but unless you check the install screens carefully it might default to installing every bit of freeware ever written in a back bedroom.

The obvious stuff still applies, install the minimum stuff you need, patch it, check at CERT etc for known vulnerabilities, run the fewest daemons you can and use Iptables/Ipchains and/or a hardware firewall.
Use the automatic update program etc. As compared to Aix/Solaris etc you need to be aware that there will be stuff on the supplied disks with security holes in; e.g. three or four ftp servers of which hairy Linux gurus know never to use two (actually most would only ever use SSH, but you get the point).

I like Suse (though I liked it more before Novell took it over), but others favour Red Hat or Debian (the Linux flavour favoured by true Linux afficionados seems to change every month, and there are hundreds of them).

One thing to watch out for is that exotic hardware may not be supported for some time (until somebody keen writes the driver). More a problem with new graphics cards in desktops than with the sort of industry standard Xeon/Adaptec server hardware you describe.

You almost certainly know this already, but twin Xeon machines sometimes have fans that sound like an RB211 at full thrust. I wouldn't plan on keeping one in your living room.

Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: ivor on March 28, 2007, 02:26:17 PM
The first server I ran was Fedora Core 4.  Fedora was pretty easy to setup and maintain.  Doing the weird stuff was an adventure to say the least.  I set up Samba once and actually got it working.  What a nightmare, but I don't need that stuff.

I need a firewall which I may run on a separate machine.  I need Apache, PHP, MySQL and SFTP.  All that I have done, but it would be nice to have a second set of eyes on it.  I guess I need X11 so someone else can look at it.  I've done that to.  Is X11 secure over the Internet?  Maybe we need VPN too.

I have run a bunch of different distros of Linux and they all install a lot of junk.  It's pretty easy to un-select it all.

My last server had big noisy fans.  I placed the server on the other side of the house so I wouldn't bother me.  After a while you kind of tune it out.

I don't like Suse much since they are in bed with Micro$oft now.

There's no hurry to get off DreamHost.  I'll get everything setup to our liking and then switch one of my other sites over to the new server and see how it goes.  My sites are constantly under attack by hackers according to the logs so any security problems should be readily evident.
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: beagle on March 29, 2007, 07:39:23 AM
I'd be very wary of using X11 over the internet outside of a VPN or similar. I might be out of date, but it was always considered a forest of security problems, and in my last place they wouldn't put it on public servers at all, even if outside access was blocked by the firewall.
Maybe someone here is more up to date on this.

Yep, I always found Samba a pain to set up; generally pinched the samba.conf (or is it smb.conf?) from a working machine and nudged it in the right direction.

In my experience the security area that tends to get most overlooked is SQL Insertion, but I'm sure all your PHP is beautifully executed using stored procedures, as of course is my web stuff (cough).

I used to use Bob Toxen's book "Real World Linux Security", but don't know if it's still considered a standard.

Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: ivor on March 29, 2007, 11:25:40 AM
X11 on VPN should be fine.  I'll block it at the firewall so it can't get out except in VPN.

Most all the stuff here is third party. I keep up with the updates.  There's not a lot going on here.

I'll have to check out that book.  Thanks for the tip!

I think I will use this Linux distro:

http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: beagle on March 31, 2007, 09:04:20 PM
I've heard good things about it, but not used myself.

My Linux experience is mainly code development on SuSE, and use of Exim as a MTA front-end for a Windows Server domain Exchange environment (the thought of connecting Exchange directly to the internet through ISA server scared the willies out of me, both products being so complicated I never felt totally confident you could be sure they  were locked down). Call me paranoid; Watchguard firewall with automatic intrusion detection to iptables firewall to Exim, rejecting many mime types and running three commercial virus engines and clamav and Spamassassin, to Microsoft ISA server to Exchange running another virus checker.



Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Kiyoodle the Gambrinous on August 18, 2007, 09:22:50 PM
There seems to be a problem with the calendar (or maybe it's just me).

The link on the left (above the logout button) says that the calendar is "disabled".

I can access it via the homepage, but it seems I am not able to make any modifications in it... I wanted to add Darlica's Birthday to the events.

Is it me, or is the calendar really disabled?
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Alpaca on August 18, 2007, 10:26:55 PM
That's a Joomla-SMF issue.

Both Joomla and SMF offer a calendar. Since multiple calendars are a bit redundant, we use the Joomla calendar, not the SMF calendar.

The Joomla calendar can be accessed by hitting the "events" link on the left, nearer the top, outside of the forum-related "box." You can add and such from there.

In a bit, I'll look into editing or removing the SMF calendar link to avoid confusion.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Kiyoodle the Gambrinous on August 19, 2007, 01:23:20 AM
It's weird. It appears that although I can access the calendar from the homepage (was able to do it earlier as well), it seems that I'm not really able to edit/add events.

Either I am blind and can't see the buttons that there have been earlier, or somehow I'm restricted from doing so.

(anyway, could someone add Darlica's and Pachy's birthdays to the calendar, so I don't forget it later, please?)
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Alpaca on August 19, 2007, 01:36:08 AM
Ooh, I totally forgot I was supposed to do that.

Removed the dysfunctional SMF link, made the Joomla link up top read "Calendar."

Gotta run - don't have time to add birthdays. Will look into later.
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: ivor on August 19, 2007, 12:43:07 PM
Quote from: Kiyoodle the Gambrinous on August 19, 2007, 01:23:20 AM
It's weird. It appears that although I can access the calendar from the homepage (was able to do it earlier as well), it seems that I'm not really able to edit/add events.

Either I am blind and can't see the buttons that there have been earlier, or somehow I'm restricted from doing so.

(anyway, could someone add Darlica's and Pachy's birthdays to the calendar, so I don't forget it later, please?)
If you'd like to try and do it yourself, just make sure you login from the home page.  You should be able to add the events.  Let me know if you have trouble.
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Kiyoodle the Gambrinous on August 19, 2007, 12:51:41 PM
I tried it several times. I always login via the homepage.

There's just no "add event" or "modify event" button for me. There was one some time ago, but there's none now.

Or I am blind...
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: ivor on August 19, 2007, 12:58:54 PM
Did you click on a calendar date?  There should be two links that look like "Add an Event" and "My Events" at the bottom of the main window of the calendar.
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Kiyoodle the Gambrinous on August 19, 2007, 01:11:22 PM
Here's what I get by clicking an event:
(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i5/bronko84/calendar.jpg)

And here's the bottom of the page:
(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i5/bronko84/calendar2.jpg)


(sorry for the large size, but I couldn't get it smaller, as it got too small to recognize things)
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: ivor on August 19, 2007, 01:40:26 PM
I see that when I upgraded my configuration was lost.  Try it now and see what you get.

The next thing we should work on is your Shout box.  It doesn't look right.
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Kiyoodle the Gambrinous on August 19, 2007, 01:51:24 PM
OK, Everything fine with the calendar now.

The shoutbox looks fine on the homepage, it looks like in the picture only when in the calendar.
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: ivor on August 19, 2007, 01:59:13 PM
Thanks for your help!

Alpaca, see how funny the Shout box looks on a calendar page?  The Shout box should only appear on the home page.  It appears that the calendar thinks it is on the home page.  I surmise this from the page title.  What do you think the problem is here?  I'm kinda befuddled.  ???
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Alpaca on August 19, 2007, 03:03:04 PM
I'll hack around and see what I can come up with.

Edit: Okay, should be fixed. It was weird. Something's wrong with the calendar component, apparently. The link on the left was one of those nifty Joomla "link to component" things, but that link was trying to go to some malformed URL. Upon trying to fix it, I discovered that the events calendar wasn't in the list of available components.

Naturally, when confronted with a deeper problem like this, I did the only right thing - I circumvented it with a lame hack instead of fixing the root cause.  :mrgreen: The link is now a simple URL-based deal, and should work fine.
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Kiyoodle the Gambrinous on August 19, 2007, 04:12:52 PM
Quote from: AlpacaThe link is now a simple URL-based deal, and should work fine.

Well, I still get that weird shoutbox in the calendar...  :)



And  MB, I forgot to thank you for fixing my problem... Thanks...  :)
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Alpaca on August 19, 2007, 04:18:09 PM
Interesting, Kiyo. You're going there from the link on the left, right? No bookmark or anything? Refresh and clear cache and all. After that, if the problem persists, post another screenshot, woncha?
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Kiyoodle the Gambrinous on August 19, 2007, 05:13:47 PM
Did as you said, cleared cache etc, but the problem persists:

(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i5/bronko84/calendar3.jpg)

I access it via the homepage, the link on the right.

I've tried to ust the weird shoutbox and wrote something in it (it is possible to write in it). Pushing the send button, brought me back to the homepage, without the thing I've wrote appearing. The button "smileys" didn't bring any reaction. The "sound" button actually shut down the sound of the shoutbox and stayed that way in the homepage...
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Alpaca on August 19, 2007, 05:37:59 PM
The general problem: The shoutbox has multiple elements. One or more of these elements think that the calendar page is the homepage. One or more think that it isn't. Some things work, some things don't.

I'll work on it a bit. By the way, does the problem still occur if you go directly to the following url: http://toadfishmonastery.com/index.php?option=com_events&Itemid=29

Edit: Okay, assuming that the above URL works fine, then the problem ought to be fixed.

Note for MB: Incredibly, incredibly nasty hard-coded hacking needed to fix. See calendar module's PHP file. Admin panel option didn't work the correct way.
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Kiyoodle the Gambrinous on August 19, 2007, 07:14:08 PM
The shoutbox is gone from the calendar. Great work 'Paca!
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Alpaca on August 19, 2007, 07:20:59 PM
Whew. Thanks.
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: ivor on August 20, 2007, 01:52:29 AM
Quote from: Alpaca on August 19, 2007, 07:20:59 PM
Whew. Thanks.

Thanks again Alpaca!
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Sibling Chatty on August 21, 2007, 10:09:42 PM
When I go to Serious/Science and click "Great Speaking Cephalopods! Squid Language?" I get

Fatal error: Out of memory (allocated 72351744) (tried to allocate 131052 bytes) in /home/.lars/toadfish996/toadfishmonastery.com/components/com_smf/smf.class.php on line 341

I'm confuzzled. I'm USUALLY confuzzled though, so it's not uncomfortable or anything... :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: ivor on August 21, 2007, 10:56:09 PM
I've seen it also.  If you get that then just try again.  We only get 60Mb of ram with NightmareHost so if we go over something gets squashed.  It was you that time. 
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Griffin NoName on August 21, 2007, 11:05:00 PM
Maybe we should all be rationed :ROFL:
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Alpaca on August 21, 2007, 11:30:46 PM
MB, memory allocation errors were coming up for me a few days ago, too, but for different topics. Cephalopod topic wasn't posted yet.

I suspect it's either a shared hosting thing, or an "SMF-doesn't-clear-out-memory-after-use" thing for high traffic times.
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Griffin NoName on August 21, 2007, 11:38:13 PM
Theoretically it should just cause a wait or a nice message would be even better - patience, all your friends are overloading our system. My bets a mixture of bugs and those fancy things called "limitations" +/- one of Alpaca's guesses. Otherwise it would happen more, although that argument doesn't entirely wash with suddenly happening two times in a couple of days.....
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: ivor on August 22, 2007, 12:13:45 AM
Could be the change in bridges.  I'll check the cache settings.

Caching disabled.  It says right on it that if you have memory problems disable this feature bug.
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Griffin NoName on August 22, 2007, 01:43:55 AM
Quote from: MentalBlock996 on August 22, 2007, 12:13:45 AM
Caching disabled.  It says right on it that if you have memory problems disable this feature bug.

Yeh! Right! *

* has that phrase caught on in the US?
Title: Re: Technical difficulties....
Post by: Griffin NoName on November 24, 2007, 04:39:22 AM
I can't download attachments (like Bluenose's above).

I get "page not found" and/or "unable to find server".

My settings are all set to allow downloads.

Anyone else got this problem?