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Sibling Zono (anon1mat0)

Quote from: Lindorm on November 29, 2009, 06:57:19 AM
Oh, and it does get quite a bit tiresome to always have Spain in the early modern age portrayed as a land of primitive bigotry and scheming, oppressive cardinals.
Because the French and the English weren't?  ;) :P

Bigotry and scheming was universal those days -and to be fair an honest- nowadays much more than we would like to admit. As for the cardinals, now we have megachurch evangelical pastors and candidates to the presidency*.

I have that movie ready for netflix streaming, pity it doesn't work...  :-\

*talk about scary
Sibling Zono(trichia Capensis) aka anon1mat0 aka Nicolás.

PPPP: Politicians are Parasitic, Predatory and Perverse.

Lindorm

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Quote from: Sibling Zono (anon1mat0) on November 29, 2009, 03:03:32 PM
Quote from: Lindorm on November 29, 2009, 06:57:19 AM
Oh, and it does get quite a bit tiresome to always have Spain in the early modern age portrayed as a land of primitive bigotry and scheming, oppressive cardinals.
Because the French and the English weren't?  ;) :P

Bigotry and scheming was universal those days -and to be fair an honest- nowadays much more than we would like to admit. As for the cardinals, now we have megachurch evangelical pastors and candidates to the presidency*.

I have that movie ready for netflix streaming, pity it doesn't work...  :-\

*talk about scary

I became a full-time train driver when a re-organisation of the Swedish system for higher education reulted in a drastic cut of funding to the humanities. I was by then working on a doctoral thesis on identity-building, ideology and Swedish foreign policymaking during the early modern period, so I am thoroughly familiar with the bigotry and scheming that could and did take place in those days.

However, I am rather tired of some old clichés that get trotted out from time to time, and while early modern Spain certainly saw it's share of religious fanatism and intolerance, there was more to Spain than that.* In the film, most of the church is either old men in dark robes plotting in dark chambers, dirty monks incited with religious fervor or fat, ugly and grotesque prison wardens drooling at the tought of getting to torture another poor wretch. A film with such high-brow aspirations should not have characterisations that make Major Bigglesworth seem like something out of the ouvre of James Joyce. To portray all early modern spaniards as either plotting inquisitors or desperately poor and uneducated peasants is a bit on the same level as having all Swedish women portrayed as buxom blondes named Inga or Helga.

As a side note, it is interesting to see that elements of the Leyenda Negra still lives on in a way. One of the world's most effective smear jobs?

(Even further aside, it is interesting to compare and contrast the spanish- and english- language editions of the article on the subject on Wikipedia. Apart from the name, they have completely different approaches and conclusions.)


* And if you want to see some bigoted religious fanatics that could make the spanish inquisition look like the Unitarians, there are a number of Swedish bishops from the era that I can recommend.


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Quote from: Lindorm on November 29, 2009, 05:07:51 PM
A film with such high-brow aspirations should not have characterisations that make Major Bigglesworth seem like something out of the ouvre of James Joyce.

Did Joyce write Biggles? Always thought the blighter was a bit too trusting of foreigners to be a real RFC type.

Pity about the Goya film; I'd turn up for a decent one.  Meanwhile, a retrospective review of the film "So funny it was banned in Norway".

The angels have the phone box




Sibling Zono (anon1mat0)

Quote from: Lindorm on November 29, 2009, 05:07:51 PM
... is a bit on the same level as having all Swedish women portrayed as buxom blondes named Inga or Helga.
What?! You just burst my bubble! :mrgreen:
Quote from: Lindorm on November 29, 2009, 05:07:51 PM
As a side note, it is interesting to see that elements of the Leyenda Negra still lives on in a way. One of the world's most effective smear jobs?

(Even further aside, it is interesting to compare and contrast the spanish- and english- language editions of the article on the subject on Wikipedia. Apart from the name, they have completely different approaches and conclusions.)
Growing up in what was at some point an Spaniard colony (New Granada to be precise) my history lessons had an interesting emphasis on a number of institutions (like the inquisition, for instance) or the general (mis)treatment of the natives which I now understand as nationalistic [pseudo*]propaganda. IOW we do have a reason for the emphasis, it comes as surprising that such slanted-by-omission vision was common in continental Europe and North America.

Ironically enough, in my current understanding of the conquest, the Spaniards seem to be almost benevolent when compared to the genocidal tendencies of the Anglo-Saxons and -to a lesser exempt- the French. Precisely the supposed starter of the Black Legend Fray Bartolomé de las Casas' push to consider the natives 'human' did indeed save the natives that didn't die of small pox in the Iberian colonies**.

In general terms people in those days were quite nasty regardless of origin, and -as the Spanish version wiki suggests- the legend was simply a reaction to the incredible wealth and economic success of the Spaniard enterprise in the Americas.

*mind you, the accusations are real and the conquest of the Americas was as vicious as it could have been, but then again emphasis was given to what happened in the Iberian colonies, not the English, Portuguese, French or Dutch ones.

**plus the fact that the Spaniards came without women, which is the reason for the majority of mestizos (mixed) among Latin American populations as opposed to the AngloSaxon/Caucasian north.
Sibling Zono(trichia Capensis) aka anon1mat0 aka Nicolás.

PPPP: Politicians are Parasitic, Predatory and Perverse.

Swatopluk

There are reports of the reactions of Napoleon's soldiers as they found the torture chambers of the inquisition. Must have been a real stomach turner.
Interstingly Spain under the Inquisition remained free of the witch crazes that swept the rest of Europe. The Inquisitors investigated the first rumors of witches and found them to be without merit (since noone turned up in the places where the  sabbath was said to take place despite the suspects claiming to have been there at the time). From then on they ignored further rumors and/or punished those spreading them.
Compare that to Britain where they had a witch trial or two during WW2* (using the old law that was still on the books)
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As for sinister Swedish clerics, I know a few movies that include those (e.g. by C.Th.Dreyer).**
I am also aware that there are Scandinavian females with names different from Inga and Helga, e.g. Gitte, Wencke or Siw :mrgreen:. I also hear (unconfirmed) rumors that some Scandinavians are not always drunk when abroad  ;).

*against faudulent mediums that were suspected of giving away military secrets
**unlike most Germans I am more accustomed to "dark" Scandinavian movies than to soft prawn. Will someone try to fuse the three strands (soft prawn, b/w depressants and Lindgren) anytime in the future to create the quintessential cliche movie? :zombie: :Elk_ThumbDown:
Knurrhähne sind eßbar aber empfehlen würde ich das nicht unbedingt.
The aspitriglos is edible though I do not actually recommend it.

Kiyoodle the Gambrinous

Here are a few reviews of movies I've seen lately and I've decided to share with you. I'll start with the worse and maybe write about the others later:

The Twilight Saga - New Moon

First of all, I want to state that I have never read the books. So I am not a fan and my review is more of the one of a man who went out with his girlfriend to see a movie that she might like.

With that said, I can state that probably the only people who will appreciate this movie will be those, who are fans of Stephenie Meyers books. For all the rest it's a waste of time and money to go see this in the theatres. I have seen the first part, and while I didn't particularly like it, it was at least partially well done, it was a professional piece of movie. "New Moon" lacks this professionality. From the beginning it appears that Chris Weitz shoots this movie like he really doesn't care about shooting a quality piece, one would even say he hates the whole thing. He tortures the viewers with heavy, slow pace, great details of tragic expressions of tragically bad actors in long discussion about the human soul. When there's finally some action, he puts it in slow motion. I guess he doesn't want the people to get a heart attack from the shock that there is something a little faste happening on the screen. The result is laughter from the audience. But I guess that wasn't really the intention of the director that people laugh at the moment where the main character's werewolf friend takes of his shirt to brush the blood from her forehead.

Anyway, I'm going too fast here. I should probably offer the people a little of the story:
Bella is a teenage girl, who is in love with a vampire. This guy leaves her, for unexplicable reasons (for her unexplicabe, anyone else with an IQ over 30 understands that he wants to protect her from himself, doooooh). The heart-broken girl then starts doing stupid things like jumping from the cliff into frozen water, because when she does something risky, she sees the image of her one and only love. She also starts being very close to a friend of hers, who happens to be a vampire. So she basically is the type of the woman who always choses the wrong man. Now she is torn between the love of both of them, as they logically hate each other, vampires and werewolves are enemies, but they both love the same girl.

Anyway, that is basically it, what the story goes. But even with a story like that one could have created an at least average movie, if good was out of the question.

Robert Pattison is rather a good actor, but he is not given the space to show that. He basically plays a good-looking pale coat-rack for good clothes. The werewolves run around half-naked all the time wrestling and doing "man" stuff all the time. But once they turn into wolves they look like the wolf from Little Red Riding Hood hit by a truck. And the main actress is just an example of bad acting.

I would give it 20%. 10% for the fact that I could see the surprise on my girlfriend's face, when the movie started. I actually told her we were going to see Law Abiding Citizen, but bought tickets for this crap instead and she didn't know it till then. And another 10% for the fact that people in the movie are reading Romeo and Juliette and that might be a good thing, right?
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******Attention: Spoilers ahead******


Avatar

I saw Avatar and I must say one important thing right at the beginning:

WOW!

This was basically my reaction and it sums up how I feel about the movie. It's mind-blowing! James Cameron has once again showed that he is a revolutionary fim-maker and his touch for details is just amazing. I am happy that he waited 10 years for the technology to improve and didn't shoot it right after Titanic, as he originally intended. One this is important though, if you are planning to see the movie - see it in 3D. I think that in order to get the maximum of the movie, you have to see it in 3D.

Anyway, the story of the movie isn't so revolutionary, but all the rest is. The story is a little bit of Pocahontas wrapped into a very interesting form. The most important thing about the story is how carefully all the layers around are created. The nature is just amazingly created, every single detail is elaborated into perfection. The planet Pandora is like out of a dream - beautiful, coulourful, alive, simply perfect. Once you are sucked into this world via the 3D glasses, you can't stop enjoying the environment. James Cameron has managed a world that is so familiar, but so unlike anything else that you have seen before. A world where fantasy goes alive. It is important to note that the charme of Cameron's movie is not in his 3D-ness itself, it is in how the director works with this technology. I dare say that he is the first director who manages to use the 3D technology for the benefit of the movie, not like many other directors so far. We don't have blood spraying at us or bullets shot at us (although he could have done that, because we get plenty of action). Cameron takes the 3D effect like a cookie, a bonus for the viewers, who wants to see a real world in front of them.

The interesting about the 3D in this movie is that it does not go in the direction towards the outside, but works with the depths. The result is thus not a reality that stands out of the screen but a world that that sucks you in. That is actually what allows this movie to be so revolutionary - I don't think there is a movie that has been able to create such an illusion of space.

Now to the story. I have said that it's not revolutionary, but that's talking only about the main storyline - boy comes with bad guys, is infiltrated into the good guys, falls in love with the good girl, becomes a good guy, the bad guys lose, the good guys win and yipee. :) But Cameron has managed to create a multilayer world that makes the story so amazing. Starting with the three-meter high inhabitants of Pandora, over to elaborated creatures of the planet's flora and fauna, up to the amazing futuristic machines and breath-taking exteriors. Cameron is a great tour guide through the world of fantasy. When taking a walk through the woods of Pandora, you are all the time amazed by the playful details (like little tree seeds floating through the air). And the best thing is, you still have good humour in the movie, which comes with the whole story, it's not a kind of humour that is put into the movie just for laugh-sake.

The humour comes with the ex-marine, who has been put on the wheelchair due to the war and has no problem with standing up to the authority. Once he is put into his Avatar - an experiment that has managed to mix the genes of the inhabitants of Pandora, the Na'vi, with those of humans and the owners of these human genes can operate this Avatars, just like they would be Na'vi's themselves - he goes to places he's not supposed to and has no problem in teasing the "authorities". He is then infiltrated into the Na'vi tribe in order to make them leave their native tree (which is a very high tree in which they live), because it's found on a rich prospect of very high-value mineral that can be sold on earth for "20 million a kilo". He does that and starts becoming fond of the lifestyle the Na'vis have, falls in love, becomes the leader of the "revolution" that goes agains the evil of the "civilization" and save the people that have been devastated by the ruthless military force of the Earthlings.

At this point, one must highlight another aspect of the movie. It's main colour is blue, and it was used for the overall marketing of the movie. But Cameron could freely use the colour green as well. His movie is so emphasizing the green note that for some people it might be a little intrusive. He very much emphasises the fact that the Na'vi are living in total symbioses with the nature and he does that throughout the movie. It tells us that it's bad to use the nature's richess and not give anything back, to destroy the natural inhabitat etc. On the other hand, I liked this. And if it manages to make an impact on people to live a little nature-friendly, it's good. But one must say that next to Avatar, Al Gore's "Inconvenient Truth" is no match at all. :)

With all these things done, I conclude the following: The movie is amazing. It's one of the few movies that I have watched with my mouth opend from beginning till the end. And my mouth hurt, as it's almost three hours long. But it was well wort it and I will go see it at least one more time, while it's in the theatres, because it will probably lose a lot of it's magic once on DVD (unless you have a very good TV, bluray, perfect surround system, tolerant neighbours and the possibility to watch in 3D).

I think I can give it 80%, maybe the movie is not Oscar-material as for the acting and the storyline, but it's one of the best movies this year.
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Swatopluk

Some nasty critics called in Dances with Smurfs (in space) :mrgreen:
They were nonetheless impressed.

I hope I'll get the chance to see it in 3D and original language but currently the cinemas are simply overrun. I'll try in the first week of January.
Knurrhähne sind eßbar aber empfehlen würde ich das nicht unbedingt.
The aspitriglos is edible though I do not actually recommend it.

Sibling Zono (anon1mat0)

Darn! Kiyo beat me to it!
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Avatar
Scifi, action

A crippled ex-marine is hired as a security escort for a science team in an off world mining operation at odds with a native culture. The chances of you not having heard of the movie would mean that the ~$150M spent in global advertising were wasted (I doubt it), which makes you wonder if those $300M spent doing the movie were a circumstantial element or if the execs went bananas. Well I can tell you that they're not, just the opening weekend totaled $232M, but that's just money, right?

Given that it took almost 20 years for Cameron to make this movie (his last true sci-fi was The Abyss) you expect him to fulfill his promise and for a 2:30 hr movie where the explosions don't start until the last hour this is a very well paced affair, when the visuals are so stunning in the calm parts that you'll forgive him for touching the flowers. The plot while imperfect works wonderfully -so much he seems to have a plan for two more sequels-, and while common themes and certain predictability are involved the outcome works so well you'll forgive him those.

The movie was filmed in 3D and it is certainly preferable to watch it as such (IMAX even better) as it's visuals are certainly half of it.

In short, it wasn't a mistake to burn movie on advertising, the movie is well worth the expense.

Sibling Zono(trichia Capensis) aka anon1mat0 aka Nicolás.

PPPP: Politicians are Parasitic, Predatory and Perverse.

Kiyoodle the Gambrinous

Quote from: Swatopluk on December 21, 2009, 05:25:57 PM
Some nasty critics called in Dances with Smurfs (in space) :mrgreen:
They were nonetheless impressed.

I heard it it got the nickname Smurf porn, because the Na'vi are running around half naked (and they are very attractive as well...).

Quote from: Sibling Zono (anon1mat0) on December 21, 2009, 05:52:40 PM
Darn! Kiyo beat me to it!

:mrgreen: Sorry mate. I guess I just had some time on my hands...


PS: I'm going to see it at least one more time... :)
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Swatopluk

I have seen Avatar yesterday (resulting in dizzyness, visual disorientation and quite a headache but long action movies, esp. in 3D do that to me in general).
It is indeed a mindblowing experience and for good reasons (which is rare). I admire Cameron's restraint to not for a single moment going 'in your face', i.e. in front of the screen and at your eyes as every other 3D movie I have seen seems to do*. Even in the case where shots are fired in the direction of the viewer, there are no bullets zipping by, just muzzle flash. The 3D is used for depth only and marvelously so. Only on very few occasions I noted a slight polarization effect interfering with the 'reality'. I was also highly impressed by the use of 3D 'in film', i.e. the holographic colour models used in the labs etc.
I think Cameron took some inspiration from his trips in to the abyss (no pun or allusion) intended. Some of the jungle plants and especially the jellyfish like seeds are clearly derived from sea creatures. But they fit in perfectly.
Now for the bad parts :fighting_violin: : Cameron is a thieving magpie of epic proportions. There is almost nothing both in plot or visual elements I could not name a(t least one) precedent for, including creature design, although I cannot prove of course that in each case there is a direct connection. The floating mountains (and parts of the jungle) remind me of Dragon Hunters, the bonding with the flying lizards as the decisive part of 'becoming one of us' equals Dinotopia (and I swear I have seen the head design for the flyers somewhere before too but can't say where**). The basic plot (unscrupulous corporation trying to mine a planet with 'pesky' cat like*** natives worshipping a nature godess through certain plants) looks like taken directly form the computer RPG Albion (minus the Celts) etc. On the other hand I do NOT think that Return of the Jedi had a significant influence (though LOTR might given that Weta did the effects). The giant hometree has so many precedents that it would be impossible to pinpoint the exact source and comes so natural that one cannot blame anyone.
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Cast quite good. I especially love to see Sigourney Weaver back in that kind or role.

On the whole a totally worthwhile cinematic experience. I give it a straight 8/10. Cameron may have nicked all elements from somehwere but the synthesis is close to perfect.
Will there be a sequel? (Logically the humans would return with nukes4* or at least nerve gas to take revenge and get the resources at whatever cost but that would not make much of a movie). I actually hope not for the magic's sake but the success will almost guarantee it.

*case in point: the trailers for animated 3D movies right before. One shot at the eye after the other.
**not Aliens, although there is a bit of similarity.
***The Iskai in that game are not blue buth otherwise the similarity is stunning
4* and use a famous quote form Aliens
Knurrhähne sind eßbar aber empfehlen würde ich das nicht unbedingt.
The aspitriglos is edible though I do not actually recommend it.

pieces o nine

I went to Mirror, Mirror yesterday -- without arm-grabbing friend.   ;)

ZOMG! A gold-worshipping megalomaniac, mis-using 'religion' to callously grind down the impoverished masses! It must be a subversive commie-socialist-godless-Democrat ploy to re-elect Obama and shove health care down our throats!  ;)

I thought it was a good remake, with entertaining re-imagining of basic plot points and costuming to die for -- literally, if you were one of the peasants paying for them!  I really liked his interpretation of the classic fairytale meme of a pool of water / mirror / reflective surface used as a portal. On the other hand, as much as I liked Julia Roberts' performance, I had to sadly admit that once you're cast as the stepmother, the Hollywood Leading Lady torch has been passed to a new generation, no?

There is a particular percussion rhythm that I love (don't know the proper label, or if it even has a term) which occasionally shows up unexpectedly in Western music. Richard Souther used it -- strikingly and effectively -- as an aural scaffold for Hildegard von BIngen's mind-bending harmonics on one CD track. I kept thinking I was hearing bits of it throughout the film, which was confirmed at the end credits  [NON SPOILER]  with an exuberant Bollywood number getting in to full swing just as "Directed by Tarsem Singh" flashed on the screen.

[edit]  I hadn't known he was involved. No wonder it was so visually opulent! [/edit]

So yeah, go if you like subversive fantasy.  :thumbsup:
"If you are not feeling well, if you have not slept, chocolate will revive you. But you have no chocolate! I think of that again and again! My dear, how will you ever manage?"
--Marquise de Sevigne, February 11, 1677

Swatopluk

SnowWhite seems to be a theme of the year. Next in line will be SnowWhite and the Huntsman and Asylum does its usual direct-to-DVD trash version too. Sigourney Weaver is nowhere to be seen though  :mrgreen:

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/TaleOfTerror_5407.jpg
Knurrhähne sind eßbar aber empfehlen würde ich das nicht unbedingt.
The aspitriglos is edible though I do not actually recommend it.

Roland Deschain

I'm so glad to see Avatar getting the love it so deserves. I was blown away by its visuals too, and although the story wasn't anything new, essentially being a really expensive Ferngully, it was something to behold, for sure. I have it on Bluray, and can say it looks amazing there, but unfortunately have no working surround sound system to fully appreciate the sound, and my HDTV is not 3D compatible (that's what you get for letting a technology become established, then buying months before 3DTVs start manufacture). Still, my Panasonic Viera does the job nicely.

Mirror, Mirror and Snow White and the Huntsman both look pretty good from their trailers. Now all that's left is to see if the trailers lied to me. ;D What was wrong with the Sigourney Weaver version of Snow White? I remember it entertaining me when it came out.
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Swatopluk

It was not meant as any diss on the old film, which I liked very well.
Just that it seems that few remember that it has already been done and that the new evil stepmothers have to measure up to the lady that has aliens for breakfast. Unlike many other actresses Weaver has no problems with 'ugly', if it serves the purpose.
Knurrhähne sind eßbar aber empfehlen würde ich das nicht unbedingt.
The aspitriglos is edible though I do not actually recommend it.