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Open Water => Serious Discussion => Human Concerns => Topic started by: Griffin NoName on December 20, 2014, 05:10:36 AM

Title: Pro-Lifers Go Too Far?
Post by: Griffin NoName on December 20, 2014, 05:10:36 AM
A brain-dead Irish woman's body is being used as an incubator. Be angry

Ireland's politicians tell us not to be emotional about the abortion debate but these are women's lives and it's right to be upset

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/dec/19/dead-irish-woman-body-incubator-abortion?CMP=fb_gu

This is massive on FB. 500 odd comments. Most of them by pro-lifers defending the rights of the foetus to use the woman's dead body.


***actually this has happened before
Title: Re: Pro-Lifers Go Too Far?
Post by: Darlica on December 20, 2014, 10:59:56 AM
Absolutely. Too. far.

It's one thing if it al least was the woman's will, or even her close family's will... and/or it was rather late in the  pregnancy.

But this. :caveman:

I'm too tired to work up an rage, but if I wasn't...  ::)
Title: Re: Pro-Lifers Go Too Far?
Post by: Sibling Zono (anon1mat0) on December 20, 2014, 05:54:32 PM
Isn't that the right's wet dream though? The woman as a brain-dead vessel, what's next making coma patients pregnant?
Title: Re: Pro-Lifers Go Too Far?
Post by: Griffin NoName on December 20, 2014, 06:41:28 PM
Quote from: Sibling Zono (anon1mat0) on December 20, 2014, 05:54:32 PM
Isn't that the right's wet dream though? The woman as a brain-dead vessel, what's next making coma patients pregnant?

I made almost exactly this comment on FB.

Most of the pro-lifers  posting comments are  woman, which I find very worrying.
Title: Re: Pro-Lifers Go Too Far?
Post by: Swatopluk on December 20, 2014, 07:35:11 PM
Quote from: Griffin NoName on December 20, 2014, 06:41:28 PM
Most of the pro-lifers  posting comments are  woman, which I find very worrying.

Same for female genital mutilation I fear. The reasons are disputed. Women often act as the enforcers of male-made laws discriminating them.
Title: Re: Pro-Lifers Go Too Far?
Post by: Griffin NoName on December 21, 2014, 04:14:13 AM
Yes, it is most peculiar. Presumably we can't think by ourselves.
Title: Re: Pro-Lifers Go Too Far?
Post by: Sibling Zono (anon1mat0) on December 23, 2014, 04:07:40 PM
Isn't it similar to the house slave mentality? I'm sure there must be some psychological analysis of that.
Title: Re: Pro-Lifers Go Too Far?
Post by: Griffin NoName on December 23, 2014, 04:54:16 PM
I'm not familiar with the house slave mentality. Would that be failure to run away? Usually because their passport is with the slave driver.
Title: Re: Pro-Lifers Go Too Far?
Post by: Sibling Zono (anon1mat0) on December 23, 2014, 05:46:42 PM
Check Samuel L. Jackson's character in Django Unchained for a reference.
Title: Re: Pro-Lifers Go Too Far?
Post by: Griffin NoName on December 23, 2014, 07:33:59 PM
So he's a gossip monger?

Sorry don't get it.